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[VIPPER] The Fake 1969 moon landing? [Conspiracy Theory]

1 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 00:21
Why do you still believe the 1969 moon landing happened?
2 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 01:52
if the moon landings were fake, why did they do it six times and had one mission fail and almost kill the astronauts? why not one-and-done?
3 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 04:42
It'd have taken more money and effort to fake it.
4 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 07:29
Because it did

I watched it

Fuck off
5 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 10:16
there isn't a filming studio in the reflection of a helmet ?

6 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 13:03
They cant go past the radiation belts, we can never leave this prison
7 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 15:51
Idk sometimes I think it could be fake because the space race wasn’t really a race to the moon, it was a race to develop ICBMs and moon thing was just a nice way to get public support. And once we Had ICBMs there really wasn’t a point in going to the moon, like I think we had the technology to do its just what’s the point when you can already nuke Russia
8 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 18:38
Because it did.
9 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9302 21:25
The Chinese would have exposed our bullshit when they went to the moon a few years back. I’m sure they looked for our flag.
10 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 00:12
because i'm not retarded
11 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 02:59
I don't. It didn't happen.

50 years of technological advancement
be elon musk
always testing new rockets
sends Tesla into space
lands boosters vertically on platform at sea
hasn't parked something on the moon for practice for getting to mars despite us landing there 6 times apparently
no one has sent a cheeky rover to the moon to live stream video footage of the landing site and flag
rover on mars but no rover on the moon?
should I keep going?

Get a grip you fucking idiots. It was faked to gain a mental edge over the Russians.
12 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 05:47
no one has sent a cheeky rover to the moon to live stream video footage of the landing site and flag

Fucking this, I'm sure we can gather some data from a rover on the moon.
13 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 08:34
Billions of people believe in a mythical sky fairy and people actually think there's no chance the moon landing was faked.

Mankind is fucking retarded. You actually think there's a deadly virus killing people too and not just a normal flu.
14 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 11:22
It happened for 2 reasons:
- During the cold ware spy activity was extremely high, if the landing had been faked spys form the former ussr would have found out about it and plastered it all over the world.

- If the nasa were any good at faking stuff like the moon landing it would not have them decades to do anything else worth mentioning.
15 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 14:09
Because I'm not an idiot. The fucking Chinese have a satellite around the moon that even sent back pictures of the lunar landing site. You really think the Chinese would go along with the hoax?
16 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 16:56
Well it’s a bit like the holocaust really,
17 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 19:43
Or the Russians..
18 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9303 22:30
Five retroreflectors were left at five sites on the Moon by three crews of the Apollo program and two remote landers of the Lunokhod program. You can fire lasers to them from the earth and they will bounce back giving you precise range measurements.

Also, the entire Saturn program had to be used for something. They were certainly firing gigantic rockets into space.

It's honestly just easier to land on the moon than to fake it when you take everything into consideration.
19 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 01:17
It’s happened, but radiation / xrays fried all the photos and video. The shit they have now as evidence are recreations to “prove” we went there. Kubrick directed it.
20 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 04:04
You can pilot around the belts, anon. They're donut shaped. The Apollo missions could avoid the inner belt entirely, only briefly passing through the thin edge of the outer belt, resulting in minimal radiation exposure.
21 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 06:51
Because they did, you fucking retard.
22 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 09:38
it's impossible because the earth is flat
23 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 12:25
Oh only just the overwhelming body of evidence to support it.
24 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 15:12
Imagine repeating this dumb line without ever thinking for yourself
25 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 17:59
I don’t believe anything.
26 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 20:47
Why do you still believe in the moon
27 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9304 23:34
Accepts there's a rover on mars
Cant understand the moon landing happened

Next thing you'll be saying you were just trolling, right? You dumb fucks never learn lol
28 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9305 02:21
Because I was there you faggot!
29 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9305 05:08
That's somehow even stupider than the idea that it didn't happen. Congratulations, you're even more retarded.
30 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9305 07:55
Aside from all the data we gathered last time we were there.
31 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9305 10:42

It surprises me that anyone with a critical mind for thinking, in the year 2021, could even ponder the concept of the Moon Landings being faked. I watched the space program as a kid and remember the day of the Moon Landing as though it were yesterday.

I've worked with NASA. You can visit the Kennedy Space Center in Florida and view the spacecraft (flown and unflown) right up close... and see how they functioned. The math that got them to the moon and back is solid. Not once in over 50 years has a single member of NASA's 400,000 employees during the Space Race claimed falsehood occurred.

But don't take MY word for it... take a look at this short video from YouTube that should prove how impossible it was to fake the footage NASA released. It was literally easier to go to the moon than to fake the footage:
32 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9305 13:30
Occam's razor.
33 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9305 16:17
Why is it stupid?
34 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9305 19:04
Yeah he directed it but hes such a perfectionist, he made them shoot it on the moon
35 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9305 21:51
Because it doesn't matter what I believe. It was an event that happened, and now we've moved on to other things.
36 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 00:38
U watched it through a telescope, or did you watch the transmission on TV?
37 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 03:24
Because I categorically KNOW it happened.
I was a Communications Engineering student (in England) at the time and we were tracking the comms using a steerable parabolic dish aerial, while simultaneously having access to the live tv broadcasts.

Most of the educated portion of the developed world was watching those live broadcasts and knew that they were seeing the greatest achievement in the history of mankind. A feat that has been repeated, but never bettered (apart from the Apollo 13 rescue perhaps).

You're a fucking deluded moron if you think the whole educated world could be duped by a faked landing.
38 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 06:12
It’s happened, but radiation / xrays fried all the photos and video.

Dr Van Allen himself explained how the Apollo Astronauts never dealt with the radiation of the Van Allen Belts. They slipped through the thinnest areas to avoid excessive radiation dosages.

The shit they have now as evidence are recreations to “prove” we went there. Kubrick directed it.

The new Japanese Lunar Orbiter that photographed the moon's surface over the last few years has photographed ALL of the lunar landing sites from various passes... showing the tracks, equipment and landers still sitting on the surface.

Kubrick was hired by NASA to produce media for them but he didn't have the ability, skills or technology to create anything realistic. Even 2001: A Space Odyssey was impressive for its time but entirely unconvincing. If you believe Kubrick faked the Apollo missions you are a mental retard. He was brought to the space center in Florida to consult with NASA artists while designing and researching his film. People assuming NASA hired Kubrick have no idea how impossible he was to work with.
39 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 08:58
Soviets won every aspect of the space race.
The americans had only one chance to prove themselves, that would have been landing on the moon. Since all their attempts miserably failed, they had to fake it, in that political climate admitting defeat was not an option.
They faked it and claimed victory, "Space race won" It was their pride on the line.
Guess what, soon as technology got close for other countries to really go there with remote operated devices, the US declared the landing site a NO GO Zone, like a 10 kilometers square and high cube space, reasoning this is a Heritage site of Humanitys greatest achievement, therefore it should not be disturbed, aka no one should go there and see that there is no flag or any tracks there.
You are welcome
40 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 11:45
You've got to be around 60 or older then. Why are you on 4ct?
41 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 14:32
Why do you still believe the 1969 moon landing happened?

The Russians HATED America. Not once did they question the footage, missions, spacecraft or capabilities of the US Space program. Not once.
42 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 17:19
OK I know this is a larp
43 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 20:06
Literally said it happened. Of course the shit / equipment is still on the moon. However all the “photos” and “videos” shown are sketchy. Shit is out of place and lighting is all wonky. Why?

Is it so hard to believe cosmic radiation destroyed film on the moon?
44 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9306 22:53
You've got to be around 16 or younger. Why are you on 4ct?
45 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 01:40
Shit is out of place and lighting is all wonky. Why?
So you don't have any actual proof. It just looks "wonky." That's not an argument you moron.
Is it so hard to believe cosmic radiation destroyed film on the moon?
Yes. Prove that it did or you concede the point.
46 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 04:27
Because 69lolamirite
47 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 07:14
it wasn't faked per se but nasa fucked up the calculations and they landed on enceladus and told everyone it was our moon to save face

the soviets went along with the lie because landing on enceladus is more of a technological feat
48 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 10:01
You can't "accidentally" land on a completely different celestial body. Christ that's retarded.
49 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 12:48
hmm 69, I am not sure, but those mirrors are hard to fake
50 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 15:35
Literally look at the pic you stupid fuck. Why is everything lit perfectly in a vacuum >>23
51 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 18:22
1969 had better tech than you probably realize
52 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 21:09
Lurk moar newfag
53 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9307 23:57
Polaroid in xray room would kill the film. Imagine on moon no atmosphere. Don’t need over 100 IQ to figure this out.
54 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9308 02:44
Occam's razor, retard
55 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9308 05:30
All the deniers have repeatedly shown to have no knowledge in orbital mechanics, rocket technology, radiation. It would actually cost more with the technology back then to fake it than actually go there.
56 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9308 08:17
That doesn't explain anything. If you fucked up the pre-planning, that's hundreds of people who all unanimously mistook the moon for some random jupiter moon. If it was a miss on account of being miscalculated, you'd just drift into space forever. You seem to misunderstand how impossible it would actually be to go several planets over AND back.
57 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9308 13:51
Based answer, anon, some people really don't realize just how impossible it'd be to fake
58 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9308 22:11
He is trolling VIPPER.
59 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9309 09:18
American education breeding retards like OP
60 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9309 20:25
can you prove it didnt?
61 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9310 07:33
Confirmed brainlet
62 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9310 18:39
You can, I did it once. Did a sweet jump on my BMX and miscalculated the landing and landed on Titan. Still got laid though.
63 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9311 05:46
why are all conspiracy theorists and flatearthers of lower education and bad at the sciences?
64 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9311 16:53
Let's say it didn't, what would it change to my life? I've been told it happened,
I'm rolling with it because I genuinely don't fucking care.
65 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9312 04:00
9/11 happened just as it was shown on TV.
66 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9312 15:08

Is it so hard to believe cosmic radiation destroyed film on the moon?

Fucking moron.
67 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9313 02:15
It's just not that hard compared to the technology available. Making it into space at all was the harder challenge and we cheated at that by stealing a Russian satellite and reusing Nazi scientists. Well, lol okay, white people's accomplishment, but pretty much all the factions.

Hey kids, did you know the motivation for colonialism wasn't racism, but Christian resistance to Catholic aggression? That's right kids, you just got caught in our sectarian crossfire, you're not even that important. Spain was raking it in with New Spain and everyone else had to figure out something similar or be very violently forced to be Catholic. Like putting you on a rack and burning you with hot irons violent. Fucking Catholics.
68 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9313 13:22
Can you prove colorful unicorns doesnt exist?
69 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9314 00:28
has one ever been documented in non fiction?
70 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9314 11:35
The universe is huge you know.
71 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9315 09:42
Elon Musk believes it happened. Or is he a fucking idiot as well?
72 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9323 12:18
are you implying the universe is so infinite that a fucking colourfull unicorn is probable?
73 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9366 19:11
enceladus is exactly 4.83 times the mass of the sun so if you miss, the gravity of enceladus draws you to it like vacuum

don't be retarded what do you think happened to spacelab
74 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9616 19:12
50 years of technological advancement
And still a trip to mars is a 1 way ticket. Sure we could have been there a long time ago, but humanity decided to put resources into other stuff, like new phones, wars, oil and a whole bunch of other useless shit.
rover on mars but no rover on the moon?
Why send a rover worth billions onto moon when you have already gathered soil sampled by hand? Thats like buying a helicopter to go get snacks from the gas station.
75 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9744 02:45
He's kind of like Screech on Saved by the Bell. Yeah he's smart but the severe autism cancels out any accomplishments he makes.

rip in peace Dustin Rutilatedquartz (Diamond was his stage name)
76 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9871 10:19
What are the chicks like on Titan? Do they regularly put out to Earth boys?
77 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9894 13:52
enceladus is exactly 4.83 times the mass of the sun
Mass of enceladus = 1,08 × 10^20 kg
Mass of the Sun = 1,9891×10^30 kg
What the fuck you been smoking?
78 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9917 17:26
Why send a rover worth billions onto moon
lets just throw them at israel
79 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-9940 20:59
80 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-10026 12:33
This. It always amazes me how highly conspiracy theorists (QAnon being the latest) think of the government and the elite's competence.

If you stop and think about the "stopthesteal" claims, even for a second, for example, they fall apart. Democrats are capable enough to falsify ballots/hack into Dominion software (pick your own theory) to get Biden elected, but their Congressional candidates lost on the same ballots?
81 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-10027 16:20
NASA doesn't use kilograms. you made a mistake in your conversion somewhere pic related
82 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-10029 23:54
I took it from Wikipedia, i couldnt really give a fuck about the exact amounts, its never going to affect my life, my point was that a moon is not 4.83 times the mass of the sun.
83 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-10032 07:28
thank you
84 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-10033 11:17
We went to the moon alright. Stanley Kubrick took us there. He was involved with nasa, and he left a lot of messages within the Shining that he faked the footage and found it hard to live with for the rest of his life.
85 Name: VIPPER 1993-09-10081 18:27
Space is flat.

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