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why doesn't he know where doc brown lives ?

1 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 02:23
in back to the future marty goes back to the same town he lives in but in 1955. we see in 1985 marty knows where doc brown lives. but when he arrives in 1955, one of the first things he does is try calling doc brown and gets his address from a phone book. then he asks several people where is the street that doc brown lives at.

why doesn't he know where doc brown lives at in 1955 when we already know in 1985 he knows where he lives in town?
2 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 03:08
>>1
As a scientist with no social skills, Doc's financial standing is highly questionable. So it's likely he's moved many times due to eviction, non payment of rent and other missteps. This isn't discussed in the movie very much but Marty obviously knows this and he's essentially skip-tracing Doc because of it
3 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 03:42
>>2
This isn't discussed in the movie very much
it isn't discussed at all. you just making this up or do you have a source? i can't find an answer online.
4 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 04:16
>>3
Again, you have to be quite familiar with the script to catch these nuances. They're not gonna say "Doc is flat busted", but it's clear after piecing together the pieces.
5 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 04:49
>>1
The street where Doc lives in 1955 has a different name

It's John Kennedy in 1985, don't remember the name in the 50's
6 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 05:23
>>1
You ever think that in 30 years a lot of things can change, you know like a street name being called Martin Luther King Drive.
Hell the Doc could have moved at least once.
7 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 05:40
>>3
He literally says he went through his entire family fortune to develop the flux capacitor.
8 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 05:57
>>5
oh. right i remember marty said something about john kennedy street and his grandfather said "who the hell is john kennedy?" thanks for clearing that up.

this is the correct answer not those other answers about doc being some deficit loser.
9 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 06:14
>>6
he didn't move. if you've ever paid close attention to the movie, they make a point of repeating things that we see happen in the future and in the past. they do that over and over, so, no doc didn't move.
10 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 06:47
>>2
>>1
his family was rich, they owned that giant house. he then sold it and invested all his money into his experiments (mainly time travel). He still has so much money in 1955, he buys a house in a neighborhood that would attend Hill Valley High School on a whim so that Marty can attend school with his dad/mom.

in 1985, he's doing his experiments out of a warehouse building, so 1985 marty doesn't know where doc lives in 1955; he knows it was a big house, just not know exactly where.
11 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 07:38
>>9
Then why did he need directions?
12 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 08:11
>>1
The beginning of the movie’s montage includes a taped up newspaper article in Doc’s garage reporting on how he had to sell his estate due to being broke.
13 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 08:45
>>8
Is Back to the Future the best movie ever made? It certainly is the best time travel movie ever made.
14 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 09:18
>>12
Finally...
/thread
15 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 09:52
>>10
the movie opens with marty in doc's house. IT'S THE VERY FIRST SCENE!
>>11
i think it goes like this
goes to pay phone
looks up doc in the phone book
calls
no answer
looks at address in the book
doesn't recognize the street name
is now confused
it's the same street as in 1985, just the name of street is different in 1955
he asks his grandfather where X street is
grandfather says on this side of town between street Y and Z
marty says "between street Y and Z? that's john f kennedy drive"
grandfather says, "who the hell is john f kennedy?"

i would think marty would just go to the location of the house, but when he saw a different street name (1955 vs 1985 name) it confused him so he asked for directions.
16 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 10:25
>>13
actually i just saw that afi name back to the future the #10 best time travel movie ever. i don't know what they ranked ahead of it. i think looper is in that list too, so afi must think looper is better than back to the future
17 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 10:59
what bothered me more was the inconsistency on how far away things were from each other.

Marty initially warps from the mall to where twin pines mall will be, drives long enough for it to go from dark at night to day to get to hill valley city limits (his neighborhood under construction even). Let's just ignore the sun rise, so let's say the twin pines mall wasn't far from marty's house, but most likely it's not going to be closer to downtown than his house and we can only assume he drove towards town and not away from it.

Now, where he stops, there is clearly a sign that says Hill Valley is 2 miles [to city hall], from his neighborhood, so Twin Pines mall is 3-5 miles from downtown. Then Marty goes back to 1985, from downtown, at 1:24am; for reference Doc gets shot at 1:35am.

When he gets back to 1985, though, the car dies again, so he runs on foot to stop Doc from being shot.

we're now to believe that Marty McFly ran 3-5 miles in under 10 minutes.
18 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 11:17
>>15
Why didn't he just walk there in the first place? The layout of the necessary streets didn't change.
the movie opens with marty in doc's house.
See https://i.imgur.com/CfISfiR.jpg
Can't be the same house since the house was destroyed.
19 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 12:57
>>14
>>18
oh damn. the story gets deeper. i guess he did move.
20 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 13:30
>>15
the movie opens with marty in doc's house. IT'S THE VERY FIRST SCENE!
no, the movie opens with Marty in a warehouse complex messing with Doc's amplifier. watch when he leaves to go to school
21 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 14:21
>>19
he didn't moved, he lives in the garage where he works on the DeLorean in 1955
22 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 15:28
>>16
time travel movie is vague

Terminator is a time travel movie
Time after Time and Time Traveller are both time travel movies and decent
Groundhog day is even considered a time travel movie
The Avengers End Game is a "time travel" movie
Interstellar
12 monkeys
Primer
Looper

there's a lot of "time travel" movies

my personal favorite is FAQ about time travel, it's silly but accurate
23 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 16:34
>>18
The house of Doc is pretty far, maybe he just wanted to win some time. When he arrives in 1955 he's at many miles from Hill Valley and he walk to the city by feet. The guy was tired
24 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 17:08
>>8
Invents time travel, also, loser.
25 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 17:43
The bigger question is why didn't Marty fuck his younger mother? She's really hot.
26 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 18:27
>>17
how the fuck you know all of the times and distances? how many times did you watch it?
27 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 18:44
>>26
there's a sign that says "Hill Valley 2 miles" (likely for comedic purposes
when Marty is in the car, he says "I'll go back 10 minutes (sets time to 1:24)"
Sign at the mall says 1:35 when Marty shows up at "lone pine mall"

the rest is deductive reasoning regarding city planning.

the only possibility would be that Marty drove the wrong way when he was fleeing the farm when he first time traveled and then turned back around after realizing that. which means, he would've passed by that farm again on the way to downtown.

This actually works out for the night to day shift that occurs between leaving the farm/mall area and passing his neighborhood under construction. He first traveled back to 6:38 am. So he drove the wrong way for 15-20 minutes, got his bearings, turned around, saw the construction, parked the car, and walked 2 miles. That would put him walking into town at about 8am, which would make sense why his dad is eating breakfast in the cafe.

which also means that he could travel the 1 to 1.5 miles to the mall in the 10 minute span.

thanks for helping me figure that out, it's been bothering me for ages.
28 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 19:01
>>22
shit i am sorry. it is #10 for science fiction movies. here's the list:

1 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
2 Star Wars (1977)
3 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
4 A Clockwork Orange (1971)
5 The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
6 Blade Runner (1982)
7 Alien (1979)
8 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991)
9 Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
10 Back to the Future (1985)
29 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 19:05
>>28
so much of that list relies on genx/millenial nostalgia

the day the earth stood still and body snatchers are probably the only films on this list that deserve the spots they got, whomever made this list wasn't old enough to have seen it as a kid in theaters. the story and acting are great in both, especially for their time.

stanley kubrick films are worthy too

the rest of the list is definitely a "I was born in 1975" and this was my childhood.
30 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 19:12
>>20
no, the movie opens with Marty in a warehouse complex messing with Doc's amplifier. watch when he leaves to go to school
That's true, Doc owns a business, the name of which you can see on his van (Brown's scientific consulting or something). The first scene could have been the business's office or warehouse. Though, someone could be mistaken for thinking that Doc lives there due to the breakfast contraptions and the presence of Einstein the dog. It is possible that Marty had never been to Doc's real house until 1955.
31 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-16 19:20
>>27
it's a very good movie because the writing is so tight and they seem to have considered every aspect of the story. i'm sure there are plot holes to be found but compared to most movies this one is fairly close to air tight. as you just laid out the timeline and distances i am sure the writers did the same to make sure it all made sense.

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