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Sunderland v Derby County [CHAMPIONSHIP]

1 Name: 606 2017-08-04 19:41
Sunderland v Derby County [19:45 BST]

Sunderland midfielder Darron Gibson may play despite facing an internal disciplinary process after he was filmed seeming to criticise team-mates.

All seven of the club's new arrivals could take part, including goalkeeper Robbin Ruiter who signed on Wednesday.

Summer signings Tom Huddlestone, Curtis Davies and Andre Wisdom are all expected to start for Derby County.

Darren Bent, George Thorne (both hamstring), and Jason Shackell (back) are out but striker Matej Vydra is fit.

Match facts

*Sunderland have gone seven games without victory on the opening day of the season, drawing four and losing three.

*Derby have won four and lost none of their last eight league games on the opening weekend of the campaign.

*Gary Rowett is unbeaten in his last four opening day games as a manager (W2 D2).

*Derby will play Sunderland on the opening day for the eighth time; only three fixtures have been played more frequently as a season opener in the Football League (Everton v Spurs 10,

*Blackburn v Derby 9, and Middlesbrough v Portsmouth 9).

*The Black Cats are unbeaten in 10 league meetings with the Rams, winning six and drawing four.

*Simon Grayson is looking to become the first Sunderland manager to win his first game in charge since Martin O'Neill in December 2011 - each of the last five have all lost their maiden games (Paolo Di Canio, Gus Poyet, Dick Advocaat, Sam Allardyce and David Moyes).

Sunderland: Steele; Jones, Koné, Browning, Galloway; Honeyman, Cattermole, N’dong, McGeady; Vaughan, Grabban

Subs: Ruiter, O’Shea, Asoro, Gibson, Matthews, Khazri, Gooch

Derby County: Carson; Wisdom, Davies, Keogh, Forsyth; Russell, Huddlestone, Johnson, Butterfield, Weimann; Martin

Subs: Mitchell, Bryson, Baird, Pearce, Bennett, Vydra, Nugent
2 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:43
What is the Championship like this season? Who are early favourites to go up?
3 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:44
james vaughan
david nugent

>>2
middlesbrough are favs

the big boys this year are villa, fulham, reading, wednesday, wolves and leeds
4 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:45
>>2
the championship is quite unpredictable, it's not uncommon for a team to come out of nowhere and get promoted, plus 'favoured' teams can just have shit seasons
that said the bookies favourites are boro, villa, fulham, wolves, norwich and sheff wed
5 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:45
Sunderland will finish in the bottom 8.

Relegation is a very realistic prospect in my opinion.

So I fancy Sunderland to go down, got them at 20/1
6 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:46
Might be the ugliest kit I've ever seen
7 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:47
>>6
Derby's away kit? yeah it isn't great
8 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:47
>>6
It looks even worse at distance from the TV camera's POV.

*clap clap clap*
9 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:48
stadium of light half empty even for the first game of the season
10 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:48
Still with the fucking kid

I DON'T CARE

I DIDN'T CARE BEFORE AND NOW I REALLY DON'T CARE
11 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:48
MUH BRADLEY
12 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:49
not even trying to be edgy when i say i hate the bradley meme
why is he so important?
13 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:50
It's like the kit designers were told to make sure everyone would know we're not in the PL any more
14 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:51
tfw League One
15 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:52
puntderland

Sunderland fans are the best, they would fill the ground at any level
16 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:52
The pink seats are even more visible now.
17 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:53
>>15
Dunno why the fans should give a fuck when the club clearly doesn't
18 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:53
Rowett
no Ince
no Hughes

Gonna be a long, boring season for Derby fans.
19 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:54
the new sky score graphic is rubbish
20 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:54
I'm so desperate for competitive football I actually ended up starting to watch this shit.
21 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:55
I mean yeah Sunderland are in a bit of a state at the moment but I don't think they could EVEN IMAGINE what aresenal are going through right now
22 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:55
*clears throat*

THEY'RE HERE
THEY'RE THERE

THEY'RE EVERY FUCKING WHERE
23 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:56
>>20
not watching based Europa league qualifying rounds
24 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:56
>>23
I still haven't forgiven the Europa league for letting united win it
25 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:57
the groundsman had a shocker here
26 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:57
the county of derby
27 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:58
>>25
It's Leicesters fault for getting elaborate pitch patterns banned.
28 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:58
What the fuck was that
29 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 19:59
Stadium of Light has a capacity of over 40,000
Why does Sunderland have such a big stadium? Were their attendances ever regularly that high?
30 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:00
pahaha.
welcome to the championship
31 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:00
Fuck me Sunderland are poor
32 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:00
So what happened to moyes, where is /ourguy/ nowadays?
33 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:00
the land of sundr
34 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:01
blunderland
35 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:01
>>24
the qualifiers yesterday were tense as fuck. going to be interesting to see how some of the big teams in it this year treat it.
36 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:02
Sunderland fans already leaving

Kek
37 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:03
I hate supporting this team
38 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:03
LMAO Derby actually scoring against Sun Underland

absolutely BTFO
39 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:04
Simon Grayson
Good thing his hair's not like this any more.
40 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:04
how long till Grayson gets potted?
41 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:04
HAHAHA FUCK OFF SUNDERLAND
42 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:05
>>40
Might as well keep him. It's a lost cause already.
43 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:05
>>42
Yeah, he just looks like an 80 year old Rooney now.
44 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:05
>>40
yeah but this is sunderland

they will pot him before christmas if they're not top 6
45 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:06
whats the best thing to do on a coach trip to pass the time?
46 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:07
>>42
Sunderland probably can't afford to pay to sack him, like Moyes last season
47 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:07
I feel bad for Sunderland but they're a joke on the pitch and the fans have quit on them. This season could be brutal.
48 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:07
yfw you remember Sunderland can't sack their manager just before the Newcastle match and guarantee 6 points anymore
49 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:08
James Vaughan

James fucking Vaughan is starting for Sunderland now. Is this some sort of footballing equivalent of ironic shitposting.
50 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:08
>>46
Sunderland are in too much debt from previous sackings to sack a manager now.

>>47
I kind of hope it is at this point. The only way this club will stop being irredeemable is if we knock it all down.
51 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:08
>>47
This is the first time for years they're doing worse than my team

The curse is lifted!
52 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:09
Preston fan here

Grayson is 100% a defensive manager he plays for the 1-0s every week

think he will need at least 2 years to get Sunderland challenging at the top of the table again like with us but he won't be given that time
53 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:09
starting the new season with sunderland at home
54 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:10
what the hell are sunderlands owners playing at?
55 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:10
tfw you unironically rated Grayson

>>2

The Championship is crazy desu senpai. People were predicting the mighty Terriers to be relegated last season and for Birmingham to be promoted. Villa were one of the favourites to be promoted too and Burton to be relegated.

mfw Nigel Clough turns Burton into a powerhouse like based Brian did with Derby and Forest
56 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:10
Sunderland made their pitch smaller?
57 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:11
>>52
Sunderland challenging at the top of the table again

The problem for them is that they are financially an utter disaster, rumoured to be 100m in debt and their owner wants to recoup some of his losses through selling players, cutting wages, recruiting cheap and selling the club if any buyers turn up.

They spent less than 2m this summer, despite nearly 40m in sales and parachute payments, not to mention the TV money.
58 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:11
imagine Cattermole being your best player

binman club
59 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:12
>>55
Nigel can't make a team into a promotion team but he can make them a solid midtable team
60 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:12
yeah we weren't an attacking team at all as soon as we went 1-0 up he immediately went to ultra defensive mode and more likely than not we ended up conceding

the thing is he built a really good, young attacking team but wasn't using it to its full potential which I think Alex Neil can
61 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:13
>>55
I rated Grayson at Huddersfield desu, probably the only manager of recent years we shouldn't have sacked.
62 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:13
>>56
Yes, looks like they plan on relying on hoofball this season
63 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:13
>>54
tfw he does the hard work and someone else always needs to take them that next step further because he can never quite manage it

Sounds like me on FM.
64 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:14
young fullback already exposed
steele already conceded and spilled a shot
mcgeady already frustrated
blunderland panicking

its fucking happening lmao. they're going down.
65 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:15
why the fuck did he buy Vaughan

he is by no means of the imagination a Championship standard player
66 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:15
We're getting completely outplayed by fucking derby
67 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:15
Sunderland 1-3 Derby
Forest 0-2 Milwall

That would be the perfect results tonight
68 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:15
>>61
if we kept grayson we would have been down.
Robins came in and kept us up with play off form.
Grayson was going through a divorce at the time and his heart was no longer in it.
69 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:16
>>57
>>65
He's got no money to spend.
70 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:16
>>65
They had no money and half their squad left this summer, they were desperate for players
71 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:17
>>61
you wouldn't be in the prem if you didn't though

he will never be at top end/prem manager

he is the best league one manager of all time though

he's not used to working with big name, big wage players like ndong and kone
72 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:17
>>65
he literally is good enough.
if you can keep him fit anyway.
73 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:17
spinny mcgeady
74 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:18
>>69
>>70
he spent 900k on vaughan

that's not spending your money wisely

he is worth 250k tops

stinks of a panic buy
75 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:18
>>65
I think it's might just be because he's friends with him and needed someone on his side in that awful dressing room.
>>68
I think we would have stayed up, but perhaps not. Robins though, what an odd fucker that man is.
76 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:19
This attendence is dreadful, even for championship standards.
77 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:19
Presumably the seating is pink because nobody sits in them and the sun has fucked up the colours
78 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:19
the first person to score against Sunderland this season is named Bradley
Really makes you think
79 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:19
Very impressed with this Sunderland side so far. Definite promotion contenders.
80 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:20
>>77
Sunderland has had one of the highest av. attendances in the PL over the last 10 years mate, back off.
81 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:20
How is it that despite changing the entire team, Sunderland still don't seem to give a fuck?
82 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:20
Piss off ref that was nothing
83 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:21
>>81
They're actually trying their hardest here
84 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:21
>>81
still playing ndong and kone who obviously want to move to a better club
85 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:22
Grayson isn't a miracle worker

Sunderland won't start improving until at least 6 months into the season
86 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:22
56 long balls in first 35 minutes

PROPAH ENGERLISH FOOTBAWL
87 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:23
microphone kicked
88 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:24
>>86
grayson loves long balls

he doesn't play passing football
89 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:24
>>84
I don't see how they don't understand that playing like you don't give a fuck will not make you marketable
90 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:25
When did grabban convert?
91 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:25
Grabban needs to keep the ball down.
92 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:26
grabban can't grow a proper beard
93 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:27
This was a great choice for first game.

Blunderland are the comedy team of the year once again.
94 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:27
browning is utter shite
95 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:28
Hahahahahahahaha sunderlands pen, who's gonna miss this time?
96 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:28
BENULDY :DDDD
97 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:29
Derby are usually the Championship comedy team.
98 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:30
NEVER A PEN REF
99 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:30
Forest score
Derby concede a penatly

wew
100 Name: Anonymous 2017-08-04 20:30
derby are a joke club too tbf.
3-1 to lundland

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