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redpill me on linux /prog/

1 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 01:19
i'm to stupid to understand it
2 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 01:43
>>1
It's gotten better over the years, but there will still be problems or limitations that, if you run into them, will not be solvable.
3 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 02:16
>>1
It's kind of shit, but it's better than the alternatives.
4 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 02:50
>>1
It's fine.
5 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 03:24
>>1
Unless you're a lazy bastard or absolutely must use some program that requires Windows, you'd have to be mad to voluntarily use Windows 10.
6 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 03:59
>>1
Quit using Windows 10 years ago
Been using Ubuntu ever since
It's worked on every computer I've owned
I've yet to encounter a situation where I wish I still had Windows
Rarely if ever have to go to the cmd line, can do most chores in the GUI
7 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 04:33
>>2
Such as?

I was die hard Windows til the abomination that was vista. That forced my hand and made me jump ship to Ubuntu, and I never regretted it. I built a gaming rig maybe 3 years ago and still find myself back on a shitty old Linux box every now and again for some things I just can't do on windows easily. Last week I pulled a HDD out of a DVR box, Windows wouldn't even register it was plugged in. Linux didn't have an issue though, go figure.

At the end of the day it comes down to what you're trying to do. If you just want to browse the web and play games then I'd take Windows all day, but if you're a nerd like myself its nice to have the option of using another tool when you need to.
8 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 05:06
i'm a gamer, learned how to use linux, none of the games i play work on it, or they work very shitty. went back to windows like 5 years ago.
no ragratz
9 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 05:40
If you're not doing programming and don't care about security, there's no reason to use Linux.
Programming on Linux is easier unless you're making Windows applications like games, then fuckin yeah, use Windows. Mostly everything is done on browsers anyway, so having Linux really doesn't affect anything. You don't have to spend 20 hours fixing your fucking WiFi drivers anymore, they work fine now.
10 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 06:14
>>8
Games I get, but why wouldn't you want to use Linux for web browsing?
11 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 06:31
>>10
People who just browse the web really aren't that techy enough to care about Linux really
12 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 06:48
world4ch's /prog/ told me to install gentoo, so I did. That was 10 years ago. I expect I will finish the installation end of this year, maybe 2021. Fingers crossed
13 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 07:06
>>9
Lol.... I see you also got burned by shitty drivers. That's time we're never getting back bro :(
14 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 07:23
>>7
Device support comes to mind, but I'm sure there's a lot of other stuff too.

And I wouldn't switch to Linux because I have a bunch of games for windows.

I use a linux variant for work, but I would never recommend it to someone who's not an IT professional.
15 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 07:40
>>11
This. So much this
16 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 07:57
>>13
Last year I bought a printer. Wireless printing worked fine in linux but I never got it to work in windows. Never got this "user friendliness" stuff, windows breaks more often from I what have seen, at least in the last decade.
17 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 08:14
>>7
what's the idea behind using distros other than ubunut? it seems to be the most widely used one
18 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 08:31
Bunch of fucking losers in here.
1. Install Xen
2. Run Windows and Debian VMs at the same time
3. ???
4. Profit
19 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 08:48
>>10
I'd argue that gaming (talking single-player here) is a lot better now; I built a nice gaming rig and thanks to Proton I'm having no issues playing games at all
20 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 09:05
>>16
My buddy said he spent 2 days trying to get Keras to run on Windows.. not sure why he was doing that. Told him to just use Linux and then
conda install tensorflow
conda install keras
done ???
Python on Windows is silly.
21 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 09:22
>>17
Different philosophies; Ubuntu is "popular and user-friendly", Fedora is "cutting-edge and if you know RHEL you'll feel at home", Arch is "script-kiddies welcome"... Different strokes for different folks.
22 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 09:39
>>16
Linux guy here, wife has Windows computer

That fucking Windows hard drive just chugs away even when the computer isn't doing anything
23 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 09:56
>>17 Nothing but personal preference really. Ubuntu is the most popular, but itself is a variant of Debian.

If you've never used Linux, try Ubuntu, popularity somewhat translates to support. If you do have an issue or you're wondering how to do something, 99.9 percent of the time you'll find the answer in the first google result
24 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 10:13
>>21
thaks anon, what about debian and linux mint?
25 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 10:30
>>24
Debian is awesome and stable, but sometimes can feel too "outdated" (it's not that much, but kernel and stuff gets out a lot later).
Mint is nice, but it feels to me like a wrapper over Ubuntu which itself is a wrapper over Debian, which is something I personally dislike. I know a ton of people very happy on Mint though, so again, personal preferences; none of these distros suck.
26 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 10:47
While we're talking about Linux.... Can someone please god explain the reason we don't have a Windows version of apt-get?

The whole repo system really is something big old MS need to look into. Half of windows security issues come from people downloading retarded software, why can't we have a walled garden supported by ms?

And before you say ms store... Nah fam
27 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 11:04
>>1
if Linux had Windows-level gaming capability, Windows would be obsolete.
28 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 11:21
>>24
What >>25 There's really no difference at all, just personal feel. And you can customize quite a lot, so just download VirtualBox and each of the operating systems and try them out and see which one you lfeel the most comfortable with
29 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 11:38
>>26
The point of a package management system is version control, not security
30 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 11:55
>>27
Actually windows registry file design can be more secure if implemented correctly. Also without access control lists Linux has a wanting permissions system compared to windows
31 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 12:12
>>26
winget is now an official thing
32 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 12:17
>>27
Once everything starts running on Vulkan, it will.
33 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 12:35
>>28
Note the caveat while testing... VMs can be close but won't give you baremetal performance unless you allocate most of the hardware and use kvm instead of VirtualBox
34 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 12:51
>>2
Just admit ur stupid and dont know how to solve simple problems
35 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 13:08
>>29
Security is somewhat happy byproduct, but yes you are correct. That and the automatic installation/updating of dependencies. It's just a better system all-round
36 Name: tokiko 2020-07-26 13:25
>>1
linux
most popular OS among pedophiles
MacOS
most popular OS among faggots
Windows
most popular OS among everyone else
37 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 13:42
>>30
The only reason Windows can be more secure than Linux is due to possible user error with Linux.
38 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 13:59
>>36
you in the wrong side of town buddy, better head to the reddit neighborhood
39 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 14:16
>>31
Mind...blown

Thanks anon, Id buy you a pint if I could!
40 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 14:33
>>32
once
you imply this will happen
41 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 14:50
Linux is as good as the person using it, really. You can essentially get anything to work on Linux, if you're good enough. There are programs like WINE for running non-Linux compatible Windows apps.

That said, if you just want your shit to work, play games, etc, Windows is better for a personal computer.

I mainly use Windows at home, but I work in Linux. Any professional type of server or appliance should run Linux - it's just better. Less overhead, more control, easier to pinpoint exactly how, why and when something has gone wrong. My company literally has thousands of Linux servers and less than 20 Windows servers for shit like Active Directory and whatever else.

That said, Linux isn't a *bad* personal OS. But I personally can't be bothered spending hours tinkering with it to get games to work in my spare time. I do enough shit like that at work. Besides, I've installed most of the Linux commands and tools on my PC, so when I need to use the CLI I've got a decent set of commands to run that absolutely shit on command prompt or powershell.
42 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 15:08
>>27
Check out Proton (and ProtonDB); I'm about to play Halo on my Fedora desktop with native performance; gaming used to be shit, I agree, but now it's way better.
43 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 15:25
Last version of Windows I used was Win 98. Been Linux ever since. Use debian. Wrote my own minimalist window manager in C.

Basically, I have shit I want to do. The shit I have to do, I want to do my way. Linux/Unix is the only system I've ever used that allows me to do things the way I want, and not force me to do things "The way the operating system designers wanted".

It's not for everyone. Hell, it's not for most people. But if you know what you want to do, and aren't a mouth-breathing moron, you'll love linux. If you ARE a mouth-breather, stick with windows. Or Mac if you're a mouth-breather with more cash than brains.
44 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2020-07-26 15:42
>>1
dont fucking bother, only retards use anything other than windows
45 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 15:59
what do you guys use the command line for? i know windows has one but i've literally never used it
46 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 16:12
>>42
Have not used this before, seems similar to Wine.. which let's be real is shit compared to Windows. Going to try a game out with Proton on my Linux virtualbox and see how it goes.
47 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 16:31
>>45
honestly i feel like 98% of average users probably don't need to use command line. For me personally, I feel it's easier to navigate the computer through the command line compared to clicking through everything visually. There's a fuckton more to talk about with the Linux command line interface, but don't really want to get into everything that it's useful for.
48 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 16:41
>>36
linux is a kernel
49 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 16:50
>>45
Some things are faster using command line because you're not rendering a GUI to show you updates. Then you just get used to it and you can really speed up stuff you do on the computer by typing since you're not dragging the mouse around to double-click something and drag something else somewhere
50 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 16:55
>>48
trips of the stallman truth
51 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 17:00
>>46
It's Valve's WINE fork (they contribute back to upstream, don't worry); I was expecting everything to run like shit but I'm able to get great performance on most games out of it ("I'm not noticing I'm playing on Linux" performance, if you will).
Finished GTA V (not a benchmark by any means, but you know), playing through Halo (finished Reach for the first time). Ace Combat 7 looks amazing...

If you're wondering, I'm using a Ryzen 5 3600 with a neat Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT
52 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 17:06
>>42
I'm about to play Halo
Dude, it's 2020, not 2003. Until brand new games are released for Linux, you're all living in denial
53 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2020-07-26 17:10
>>52
being this retard
54 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 17:21
Easy to use these days and free. Why bother paying for an OS? For work compatibility, maybe, but not many good reasons anymore.

It's not 1999 and Redhat 6.0 takes half a day of work just to set up a printer.
55 Name: Anonymous 2020-07-26 17:27
>>53
being in denial

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