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There is life on other planets?

1 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-12 19:33
There is life on other planets but we've never been visited by beings from another world as we're too far apart

Prove me wrong.
2 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-12 20:30
I'm guessing you also think earth is flat. Gtfo faggot
3 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-12 21:20
>>2
Of course not. Only fucking idiots think the earth os flat
4 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-12 22:10
>>2
the earth is lit
5 Name: RedCream 2019-02-12 23:18
>>1
Probably correct, but not provable.

Multiple exoplanets have been identified; therefore the significant likelihood of life-bearing worlds continues to rise. No such life has been observed however, so this is speculation.

observation of life evidence, however, is not evidence of intelligent life, therefore, that further reduces the likelihood. However as this is a negative, that they have never been visited, this increases the likelihood this statement is true, they have never visited us.

With current understanding of space-time, and the laws of physics, distance is the principal limiting factor in reaching other astronomical bodies using known technology.

therefore "as we're too far apart" remains a valid reason until such a point as the first clause is answered, and opens up technologies which would negate this point.

therefore, the statement is not provable, but highly likely true.
6 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-13 04:51
>>1
1) There is most definitely life on other planets. The question is how intelligent it is.
2) The shear number of planets implies that even if there was intelligent life it is not even a matter of distance but again, probability, that we would be visited by another ultimately rare intelligence within the 50-100 year span that we have been looking/had technology.
3) It's possible that we have been visited and just didn't know what it was or they thought we were too primitive to interact with. Humans are 1% smarter than a monkey. Imagine a being 1% or 5% smarter than you. You would be literally an insect to them and not even be considered to be intelligent life.

4) AND MOST IMPORTANT. You presume that life as we know it exists in a state of permanence on this planet as well as others.
Most evidence shows that planets like the earth have REGULAR mass extinctions. Life on earth has existed for almost 2 billion years but we have only had radio technology for 200 years. It's highly likely we'll have another mass extinction even very shortly (in geological terms).
If this is the general pattern of every planet, the number of livable planets increases, but the ability of life to leave those planets diminishes greatly.
7 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-13 14:01
>>5
You clearly don't know shit about physics btw.
Our current understanding of "Space-time" is fuckall. The speed of light is "a constant" that we have literally made up. There are tons of solar systems that are farther away than the speed of light that we can see. The edge of the universe moves faster than the speed of light. There is no dark matter or dark matter is a plasma. They've never found a neutrino, etc etc.

90% of atrophysics/particle physics is math make believe.
8 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-13 17:05
>>7
this
Also any intelligence that could make it to us would probably not be interested in us outside of observation. We would be the equivalent of ants to a interstellar civilization.
9 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2019-02-13 20:09
>>1
There isn't life on other planets because everything beyond Mars is a hologram

Prove me wrong
10 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-13 23:12
>>1
Visiting would serve no purpose. We've possibly been observed. Nothing more
11 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-14 02:32
>>1
I cant think of any technology capable of traversing these distances
Therefore aliens dont either.
Being this ooga booga
12 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-14 05:36
>>1
cool topic
nobody can proove anybody wrong or right because nobody really knows
13 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-14 08:40
>>12
How do you know noone knows?
14 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-14 11:43
>>13
i don't
15 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-14 14:47
>>1
um, if aliens didn't exist, how would you exist? faggot.
16 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-14 17:51
17 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-14 20:54
there's life on other planets
we've never seen 'em
only 1 explanation
18 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-14 23:58
>>1
youve used an absolute after making an assumption. use qualifiers to make your statement true.

its extremely likely organic life happened/is happening on other planets. However it is less likely visiting earth would be worth the trip, given the tremendous amount of time and/or energy required to travel here on purpose. Traveling here by accident (panspermia) is a more likely visitation although that life would be extremely simple in nature.
19 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-15 03:01
>>9
Look up the videos from the guy Vogt. Diehold Foundation. His "unified field theory" for lack of a better term makes the most sense of anything I've ever heard and it wasn't even his objective.
But if you buy what he's saying, pretty much everything is a 'hologram'.
20 Name: RedCream 2019-02-15 06:39
>>7
Nice bait there. But ill bite.
Math make believe.

Lemme guess your in your first year or so of community college. And one of your professors repeated some quotes from hawking to you, so now you think you know more than the sum total of all physicists and mathematicians before you. Close?
21 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2019-02-15 12:29
>>19
Just because it makes sense to you doesn't necessarily mean its correct.
It would make sense to a child that clouds float because theyre full of helium balloons, simply because kids dont know any better. Not saying youre ignorant just saying "makes the most sense" is not the same as proven science.
22 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-15 21:39
>>20
Uh...negative.

The constant c varies across the world for years so the definition was changed to deliberately make is unchangeable. It used to be an actual measurement but now it is fixed to the universal standard of the measure of 1 meter so it cannot change.

This is a math trick, not fucking science. Just one of many examples.
23 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 03:46
>>21
Nothing is proven you retard.

It's "proven science" that the Sun is a ball of gas created by nuclear fusion but the math equations they used to prove it show that they would get billions of neutrinos per second if that were the case and scientists have spent literally millions if not billions of dollars trying to both find neutrinos AND recreate the reactions they claim happen and have been able to do neither.

Same with dark matter. They have spent since the fucking 50s blabbling about dark matter and black holes and other made up bullshit like that and never had ANY proof other than some philosophy or math equation they pulled out of their fucking asshole and now shit is just starting to fall apart so they're making up string theory. Bullshit generation 2.
24 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 06:33
>>20
No comment? Thought so.
25 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2019-02-16 07:40
>>23
And i say to you why dont you go and study, find proof, run tests, question findingseven scientific proofs are simply foundations to question and further build on. But saying everythings a hologram because it makes sense is the same as saying the earth is flat or that all of our galaxy is inside a marble on a cats collar. Because why not?

Dont accept things because they make sense. The whole foundation science is built on is we are supposed to prove things and then try to find any holes we possibly can. Fact just means that despite everyones best effort the subject in question has yet to be disproven.
26 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 09:20
>>1
Everything was made in Syria before the Egyptians, they equate all their technological advances like beer aqueducts and writing to the annunake or from heaven to earth they came
27 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 09:54
I'm in the, "We are too primitive to openly interact with". For god sake we still kill/hate each other for the most ridiculous and radical things.
28 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 10:44
>>26
Beer Aqueducts
29 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 11:35
>>25
I literally just saw this guy's stuff. And it's not a hologram, that's an oversimplification.

It's more than it makes sense. The carrier wave theory he uses is the first theory I've ever heard that explains wave-particle duality and the behavior of an electron/photon in the dual slit experiment.

Also, pretty much everything that we have tested in particle physics has been disproven btw. They just don't blab about it. They move on to something else because no one likes to talk about how they spend 30 years and billions of dollars to disprove something. You only hear about successes.
30 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2019-02-16 12:25
>>29
Nobody enjoys finding out that the theory they've spent their whole life attempting to prove is a dud.

As to the hologram theory, does it make any actual predictions ?
31 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 12:42
>>25
And to by honest, my focus is to find a way to prove some kind of 'unified theory' or that some fundamental law of is not quite correct using something actually physically provable. That is not a trivial task or it would have been done by now.
32 Name: RedCream 2019-02-16 13:16
>>24
Sorry about the wait there copernicus. Unlike yourself, i have other things to do so while looking on google for variable speed of light. Idid find some articles (which i assumed you also skimmed while picking for your argument)
The largest change in the constant C was a change of less than one arc second when affected by extrem gravity (~30 meters different when going around the sun) so unless you are saying we should change every physics formula using constant speed of light in a vacuum (reminder also that Einstein's findings are still thought to this day to be faulty because and listen here SPACE IS NOT A PERFECT VACUUM) to accomodate this tiny change (Only to find that the constant speed of light in a vacuum is a relative average that the largest outlier from it was less than 30 meters out of three hundred million meters per second) but yes use your ONE outlier you found on yahoo answers to try and disprove the facts.

Theres a difference between being intelligent and cherrypicking your arguments off google.
If you want to play this game further i can play your way if you want to try and make an intellegent argument i would gladly listen though.
33 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 13:52
>>30
You have to watch the guy's stuff. It's pretty complicated.

The ultimate purpose of the Diehold Foundation is that he thinks that the sun has a mini supernova on a 12,068 year cycle and that the foundation is to gather resources to help determine what side of the earth would be facing the sun when this happened next. He suspects that it would happen in 2046.

The amount of evidence that he has gathered is absolutely fucking staggering. I have never seen any scientist have anywhere near the kind of proof that this guy has. It's ridiculous.

But the whole 'hologram' thing is basically he just thinks the entire universe is on a clock cycle based upon a carrier wave. The carrier wave probably runs at about the speed of plank's constant (this jives with current theories about 'dark matter plasma') and that when the carrier wave interacts with the other 'axis' then you get matter. But matter isn't really a 'thing' it's just information really. So, something that is like a rock, has 3 dimensions of information. Something like a plant or a human has 4 dimensions of information (so exponentially more). Something like a planet would be like 6-7 dimension of information and a star is like 8 dimensions of information.

When you look at a star and it's bright, it's just a shitton of information about the surrounding solarsystem being sluffed off and shot out to be fed over carrier waves to every lower dimensional object it can touch.

But it's all on a cycle and periodically shit happens that is...undesirable. Analogous to a computer clock.
34 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 14:59
>>32
Oh...you should probably read a book instead of just using google.

If you go back to the 60s/70s, it changed constantly. All over the world it was measured relatively quite differently. The issue arose (as you just described) about "we don't want to change all the forumlas!" so they just alter the length of a meter to match the speed of light they measure. Cool trick.

Also interesting that you would choose gravity. Big G gravity is measured in wide variation as well. They measure that all over the world. Multiple places take a bunch of measurements, they're all different, then they average them. Then those organizations all get together periodically and show their data and they average that data, and that's Big G. A Constant.

How is that correct? If it's never the same, what is changing? Don't you think that should be investigated? Nah...why bother? We already know we can make up a number and keep getting a paycheck. Math checks out. People believe math.

Assume all your measurements are fine and C is perfect. Then universal expansion STILL moves faster than the speed of light. But wait...nothing moves faster than that C. How come red shift shows 18 billion year old galaxies when the universe is only 14 billion years old?! Hrm...Well...that's just an error. Or we'll make up dark matter or something else we can't prove!
35 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-16 16:24
>>27
Maybe were not socially primitive but maybe in the sense of technology were too primitive.

say we have an anthill in the middle of the forest. And right next to the anthill, they’re building a ten-lane super-highway. And the question is “Would the ants be able to understand what a ten-lane super-highway is? Would the ants be able to understand the technology and the intentions of the beings building the highway next to them?”

-Michio Kaku

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