How different were these species compared to us?

1 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 07:52
How different were these species compared to us in a cultural and intellectual way? I just wonder what it would have been like to have lived with other species in our genus. Also what was the likelihood this hybrid was fertile? What if she bred with a homo sapien? What did speciation mean for us and our last closest relatives? Were they as human as us?
2 Name: RedCream 2019-02-09 09:07

1. Homo Neanderthalis actually had a larger brain than us. It was differently constructed though. They would have been quite intelligent, but different.

2. Female Hybrids were actually fertile. The presence of Neanderthal DNA in Europeans (or Denisovan in Souh-East-Asians, etc.) means there has been a continual line including non homo-sapien DNA. Females of most hybrid species are either completely fertile, or more often partially fertile. Partial here means that most children would be misscariages or non viable but some would survive.

3. And to your last question, yes. There's no reason to assume they were not. Even late era Homo Erectus would have seemed human to us, although a bit dim and lazy.
3 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 09:57
a bit dim and lazy
so kinda like niggers
4 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 10:48
Thanks for real reply. Do you know if there is any real science on the cognitive abilities of neaderthal? Especially how it relates to language aquisition? A bigger brain doesn't mean much if the neo cortex wasn't as developed. I just wonder about how they processed the world around them. Problem solving too.
5 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 11:21
more like those natives you see on Nova in Brazil.
6 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 12:11
The strongest species are the ones forced to survive alone the weal are meat and the strong do eat.
7 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 13:18
Not RedCream but I do know that scientists believe they had sophisticated languages and even ritual burial of the dead. As far as problem solving they made tools and that solved problems. Processing the world is individualistic and hard to define even amongst present day humans.
8 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 13:52
Probably not that different. The general consensus is that we interbred with them in Western Europe, and caucasians probably emerged as a result of that interbreeding.
9 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 14:42
Nova in Brazil
what the fuck is that
10 Name: RedCream 2019-02-09 15:33
Me again:

I think this article will answer 90% of your questions. It underlies the differences in brain structure and the implications for, among others, their visual and social percepction.
11 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 16:06
Just to clarify, language is deducted but there is no direct evidence.

Burial is proven quite a lot since we've found multiple Neanderthal burial sites where the bodies seem to show a degree of care.

3rd one, jup, will be really hard to prove through scientific methods.
12 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 16:23
13 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 16:40
im just here read about cavegirl nudes.
14 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 16:57
Imagine the smell.
15 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 17:14
More people live in caves nowadays than they used to in the past.

Simple reason why we used to think they lived in caves was because preservation was better there than anywhere else but they seemed to have made huts from wood for an earily long time.
16 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 17:31
Probably every bit as smart as us, just born during an era where you had to make absolutely everything from scratch. Probably had better teeth from non-sugary diet. Probably lived as long as the oldest current day humans, when they were lucky enough not to get injured or infected.

Also, every depiction of early humans shows them as dirty and unkempt. This is probably completely untrue and a meme from 1900's science. Healthy animals like looking good, and grubby, sick looking creatures don't tend to get selected to reproduce.
17 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 17:48
just go on the ebony thread
18 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 18:05
Neanderthals have been found to have stayed with their dead, and buried them with flowers and spices and gifts, same as humans at the time. They were known to have a nasal and melodious vocal sound, and were likely as interested in colors, aesthetics, beauty, peace, and contentment as humans were.

They knowingly crossbred with humans, and cared for their elderly and sick/weak as well. Were it not for the changes and disasters that killed many of them off, they likely would have been wonderful partners to us in the world.

I too kind-of wish we could have shared this world with them now.
19 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 18:22
They were known to have a nasal and melodious vocal sound
That study was thoroughly debunked, problem is that when you show something on tv, more poeple will keep it in their mind.

Were it not for the changes and disasters that killed many of them off

It's been conclusively proven that direct competition with Homo Sapiens was the downfall of the Neanderthals.
20 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 18:30
sources? I'd like to see what you've found, Not here to sling shit though. I've had a terrible week and at least this thread isn't more reasons to wish i was dead.
21 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 18:39
22 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 18:43
23 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 18:48
i got ya. Thats cool man. I'll read through the free one and try to hunt the pay one down somewhere.

We found direct evidence of at least one neanderthal/human child living with the interspecies parents didn't we? I feel like i remember that.

And obviously considering we have dna tracking showing percentages of neanderthal dna in ours, its proof that at least all of it was not direct competition, right?
24 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 18:58
There are differnt theories about that but my personal view is that most of that DNA didn't enter our bloodstream voluntarily. As only female hybrids bear children and those hybrids generally come from female Neanderthals or Humans it is more likely that it was a very involuntary situation in which multiple generation (because it doesn't disapear in the 2nd generation) of females had to have had to bare children.

I know this is 4ct and I can just outright say it, but hey man, it's my job.
25 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 19:17
nah that makes sense. Plus I always appreciate someone that isn't just an armchair shithead ranting about stuff, and instead is someone who actually cares and isn't just going out of their way to be a dick.

So personally though, Do you feel that it would be beneficial for the current human race if we had some of the other species still living in the world that we could spend time living alongside? Theoretically, as if we hadn't fucked all that up long long ago?
26 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 19:32
The ironic part is that white people are pink ass cave monkeys. suck on that for while whites.
27 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 19:37
White people still have that caveman mentality.

"me better than you. Me kill you. take your stuff."
28 Name: Anonymous 2019-02-09 19:56
Just go to australia and interact with the aboriginals. They're basically prehistoric people living in a modern world.

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