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General tranny hate thread.

1 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 03:33
LOL tranny loses their shit, starts having a fit in a rich baritone from a mouth surrounded by a half days beard growth "I.AM.A.WOMAN!"

Then the mentally ill lunatic begins to have their crazy person meltdown because nobody is going to play along with their delusions. Every time some douchebag pulls the "What does it bother you for? How does it affect people?", this is another great example. "Play along with my delusion or i'll tear your place apart."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/video-transgender-woman-screams-at-clerk-over-sir

Also, general tranny hate thread.
2 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 03:51
Thanks Obama
3 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 03:58
Oh wait, one woman showed up in the list. Totes legit a woman.
4 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 04:05
>>1
I don't hate trannies, but the pronoun thing has gotten out of hand and is attention seeking self-victimization behavior. I guarantee that 9/10 people don't give a shit, it's simply that this person feels so out of place in their skin that they're projecting their mental illness onto others. If you're going to flip out that much, might also well wear a sign that says "please call me ma'am". How is the store clerk, or anyone else supposed to know in the first place. And, even if someone doesn't call you by your preferred pronoun, be enough of an adult to shrug it off and move on. Grow some thicker skin. The world isn't a kind place no matter who you are. Treat others how you want to be treated.
5 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 04:09
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6500231/Eight-year-old-pupils-told-boys-periods-new-sex-education-guidelines.html

"If you believe really really really hard and wish upon a star it'll come true! Clap harder, tink is dying!"
6 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 04:43
>>1
I once called a biological woman "sir." It was an honest mistake, her voice was very gravelly. She corrected me politely and still tipped $5. Felt bad tbh.
7 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 05:16
>>4
The thing is though I hear way more people crying about being "forced" to use different pronouns than I ever hear others crying about theirs not being "respected". You should all probably shut up, both sides.
8 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 05:50
>>4
They're mentally ill and they should be institutionalized and kept away from decent, normal society.
9 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 06:24
jesus fucking christ

i will be telling the entire lgbtq community about this!!

this is exactly why your movement is not respected
10 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 06:57
>>4
They're mentally ill and they should be institutionalized and kept away from decent, normal society.
By those standards, we should probably institutionalize everyone on /newpol/. We're all mentally ill in some shape or form, yourself included.
11 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 07:10
>>1
I think the bigger sign of mental illness is that this person went into a GameStop to buy games.
12 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 07:39
>>4
And I guarantee 699999999/7000000000 people have never actually experienced OPs situation.
possibly even 0, considering we live in the age of faux outrage and fake news.
13 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 07:56
>>5
I'm just gabbing with the girls.
You know our cycles have lined up? Mine's from wiping too hard.
14 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 08:01
>>11
the good thing about gamestop is they'll take just about anything for trade. you could bring in a smashed up gamecube and they'd give you credit
15 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 08:19
>>7
Of course you would, why would you not be extremely vocal about the government dictating to you what language you must use? Are you some sort of hyper-cuck?
16 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 08:40
>>12
You've obviously never been on a university campus
17 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 09:19
Oh fuck. That was a car crash to watch. He seems sane.
Honestly these people freak me the fuck out. Why we are meant to accept them I will never know. Irony is they can't even accept who they are themselves.
18 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 09:42
>>7
That’s probably because there are governments all over the world threatening their citizens with various forms of punishment and violence if they don’t play into this bullshit.

free speech
gender pronouns enforcement

Fucking pick one, you moron. I think the lesser of two evils is allowing <1% of the population to be offended when I don’t legitimize their mental illness.

This is not about compassion, or a person’s rights. It never has been. It is about power. For many, being trans is literally a social trend they can engage in in order to gain some kind of power through willful and wanton self-victimization. For the lawmakers it represents and opportunity to further restrict your rights.

There’s no two ways about this. If you don’t see it, you’re either a moron or your complicit.
19 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 10:18
Retail employee should have just been in agreement. Working in retail he should know that. Retards are a dime a dozen.It wasnt worth this shit storm.
20 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 10:53
>>16
Not in this decade. Its your shit stained generation not mine.
21 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 12:50
>>10
This is so stupid it hurts
22 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 13:09
>>10

We're in our containment board. We don't demand the world bow to our whims.
23 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 13:27
>>1
Next time j
Don't say sir or ma'am. Just say faggot next time.
24 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 13:46
trannies want the world to reflect their mental illness, their twisted, ugly view of the world. They want to normalize their mental illness.

idiots give in and virtue signal their support in stupid ways.
25 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 14:05
Fuck her right in her non-existent pussu
26 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 14:11
>>25
"I can't wait to have kids and have my period!"
27 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 14:33
>>1
The man behind the counter didn't ebin say sir he said 'you guys' as one would say to a group of people
28 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 14:52
>>12
You've obviously never been obese, let your hair get a little too long, and worn a paisley shirt before.
29 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 15:09
>>8
So we should institutionalize people with depression and anxiety disorders? Schizophrenics?

Your irrational hatred of trans people is way more indicative of a mental illness than anything else posted here.
30 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 15:26
>>27
No amount of apologies or compliance will ever be enough. They simply want the power that comes with being offended today.
31 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 15:43
>>30
Which is why you just cater to them and then go about your day. This like retail 101. Yeah, tranny was way out of line, but the kid escalated it by objecting.
32 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 15:46
>>29
Different anon here. Why shouldn't we institutionalize them? Those are all serious mental disorders. Anyone diagnosed with any of the disorders youve listed could be a danger to others and more importantly themselves.
Something tells me you don't know much about ametica's history of institutionalized medicine. Ronald Raegan is rolling over in his grave.
33 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 16:03
>>1
the blaze
A tranny hate thread is all fine and dandy but let's not forget the shit site you're linking, OP you fucking faggot. The Blaze? Honestly? Go clean your room and wash your benis
34 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 16:21
>>31
The kid wasn't the one who was screaming at the top of their lungs and causing damage to the store over a perceived slight.

It is not the publics responsibility to play along with a mentally ill mans delusions about what his gender is. He's clearly a man. Working in retail doesn't mean that he has to capitulate to every request. They're not slaves.
35 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 16:38
>>5
dailymail
At least pretend you want to be taken seriously
36 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 16:55
>>29
Considering the faggot dumpster fire tranny in the >>1 was literally violent, causing property damage and threatening physical violence against others, on that basis alone I’d rather see him institutionalized vs the average /newpol/nazi.

But you’d disagree. It violates your worldview. Your personally tie your sense of virtue to it and so can never see their wrongs or ills. So repeat after me: “Barack Hussein Obama, MMM! MMM! MMM!” and “Gay is OK!” and let’s not forget “Islam is a religion of peace!”

Neck yourself.
37 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 17:15
>>35
BBC and guardian confirmed it to you cretin.
38 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 17:35
>>36
Imagine living in fear of fucking trannies lel
39 Name: RedCream 2018-12-28 17:58
And yet doctors will readily chop you up to suit whatever insane body image they have.

There's a condition called Body Identity Integrity Disorder, in which someone thinks they should not have a hand, or a leg or some other appendage. They describe it the same way trannies do, as it is painful to them. But no reputable surgeon would ever amputate a healthy limb to placate a mentally ill person with BIID. However because it's currently fashionable politically to give into LGBT whims, they will gladly do it. It's like the mentally ill people are dictating their own treatment, which would never be allowed with any other mental illness. It's like legitimizing schizophrenia and telling them that the voices they hear are real, and whats more, they deserve to have voting rights.
40 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 18:03
>>38
Thanks for the You!

imagine honestly believing that removing violent and mentally unstable people from the general population equates to living in fear.
41 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 18:23
>>8
The problem with all of these issues comes from too factors. First genetics, second capitalism. In the first case it is the impure pool of genes of mutts in US that causes too many aberrations. Capitalism encourages people doubting their genders so private healthcare can make some cash. Very similarly it will encourage any alterations in your appearance. Maybe in some rare cases it is a manifestation of some psychological reasoning among men to alleviate a risk of becoming an incel. A woman has more chance of having sexual relationship than men so men as early as kids start to question their identity and make choice faster to become a woman.
42 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 18:49
>>37
Then link those instead of being a disingenuous faggot, brainlet. Actually, no. Fuck the Guardian. BBC is just fine.
43 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 18:51
>>34
WHOOSH Youve obviously never worked in retail
44 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 19:10
>>43
When I was younger, definitely. It was that expectation that helped make me want to never work in it again. The idea that they're lesser people, or they should be expected to placate every unreasonable whim, or even suck up abuse because of a minor mistake.

And it wasn't a mistake. Despite his beliefs to the contrary, that tranny is a guy. He's just inflicting himself and his insane beliefs on others and expecting them to know off the bat. The fact that he's playing dressup and his expectation is everyone has to pick up on that says more about his views on women than the cashiers "misgendering"
45 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 19:35
>>6
¿How do you even know for sure at that point?
46 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 19:44
>>44
Has nothing to do with who or what the person is. You placate because that is your job. Its part of customer service.
47 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 20:07
A costume does not make you the thing you're pretending to be.

Walk into gamestop dressed as an alien
"And here is your change. Have a good day there, Man"
"MAN!?! EXCUSE ME I AM A GLEEPGLOX FROM REMULON 12. HOW DARE YOU CALL ME MAN. I AM A STRONG, PROUD, FIERCE REMULONIAN AND I DEMAND TO TALK TO YOUR CORPORATE OFFICE!"
48 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 20:28
>>1
I don't care if they are mentally ill, we never should have given these 'people' an inch. As soon as all this tranny-pronoun shit started we should have said "Fuck off!"
49 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 20:36
>>46
How are they supposed to placate if both assuming and asking about his/her/they gender will produce a negative reaction? The point is this person is mentally ill and they are looking to be offended so they can freak out and feel justice and virtue.
50 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 21:02
>>49
The ones who pass have a nice time and no one even knows. The ones who don't get treated like shit and kill themselves. The system works.
51 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 21:15
We have a guy like this in Poland. Last time he harassed a 13 years old girl because she was standing next to him on bus stop. He once beat up landlord because he didn't want to lend him an apartment. Or he spilled hot coffee on somebody in restaurant because he looked at him inappropriately. The saddest part is, this clown is media celebrity. He's called "rafalala".
52 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 21:32
In 5 years, we will see this same article, but it will be someone in a red fursuit that identifies as a fox but freaked out when they were called a wolf instead.
53 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 21:49
>>1
Was that at a GameStop? LMAO.... I hate the culture. I hate the movement, but I don't hate the individual. If I can find the respect for you I will call you what ever you want. How ever you cannot demand that respect. If you do, I will spit in your face and call you by your birth name. FuckingFaggots.
54 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 22:06
Back when I was about 19 or so, I had multiple instances of people mistakenly referring to me as "she." I am an actual guy (not a weirdo transguy), and I can only think it was because I had somewhat long hair at the time (about chin length), but it wasn't done up in any sort of feminine style. Wasn't anything weird about the way I was dressed either - It even happened once when I was wearing a suit and tie.

So I wasn't just being "misgendered," I was completely being mis-sexed. I'd always just laugh and shrug it off.
55 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 22:23
if you start sperging out, demanding that i use your pronouns & threaten me, i'll just tell you this: you have a cock, fuck off you freak-of-nature.

but if instead, i hear you say something like this: hey, i know you don't consider me a girl and i respect that, but it would mean a lot to me if you refereed to me as girl. it's not like i'm asking you to fuck me...

then i would say: sure thing babe, if that would make you happy. ain't harder than that to get a little respect, at least in my book.
56 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 22:40
Traps are all over the place now. I think they are trying to make it normal so they can trick regular guys into fucking them. Libtards are so involved in fantasy that they will call you transphobic for not fucking a trap.
57 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 22:57
It's amusing to see all the retards ITT describing this as a mental illness (correctly or not, idgaf), and then calling for them all to be killed. People don't choose to contract an illness, you fucking tards. And if you think they did choose it, then why are you describing it as an illness?

Conservatards. Just imagine being that stupid.
58 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 23:14
>>8
Looking at the statistics which these people tout it becomes extremely unfathomable that it's a legitimate illness and instead a social outcry. There's no way these four people would be transgender had none of them known what it is beforehand. Gender dysphoria is something that, supposedly, you feel without ever knowing what it is. These people are living proof that it's no longer about the extreme minority of people with an illness instead it's now a nurtured mindset.
59 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 23:31
>>57
Asking for them to be killed is born out of frustration at the fact that western society is going along with this madness and promoting it and while it is a mental illness and should be treated as such it's becoming trendy now to be trans and people actually are choosing it and getting extremely agressive if you "misgender them". Also the fact that they are being used politicaly to try and change policy on things like free speech and the idea that in the future if your 10 year old male child says they are a girl you may be compelled to put them on hormone blockers or face child abuse charges even though there has been no long term research on what effect these things will have in the long run.This among other things such as ridiculous gender fluid people are why people are reacting so violently towards this and its understandable in the context of the way things are going
60 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-28 23:46
Thank God we dont have this SJW/LGBT scums in Russia.
61 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2018-12-28 23:53
>>1
Yeah let’s blame all trans for this one crazy. Here’s the news flash there’s loads of people going into places and acting crazy. Take the bitch who went into Taco Bell and demanded fries, she wasn’t trans.
62 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:07
tranny hate thread
I only hate them when they aren't passable. But when they are, I want three of them in my bed at all times
63 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:12
>>32
And you could be a criminal we should lock you up to, just to be safe. You know what. Just to be safe no one should be allowed to leave there house ever and should be under constant supervision of the government.
64 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:16
>>62
That's really gay dude. You should probably just keep that to yourself.
65 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:22
>>63
Agreed. We need an authoritarian state for at least 20 years to get this ship back on course.
66 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:26
>>63
Isn't that how it is already?
67 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:31
>>1
call the tranny ma'am = everyone happy
call tranny sir = isolate a portion of population who have disposable income and become the center of an outrage clusterfuck online
Well done, way to pick the path of least resistance guy who used to have a job.
68 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:38
>>67
thanks thought police, what other words can't i say? I get the logic, same that "you should always believe in god" (if he doesn't exist, no loss, if he does exist, you are good, but as an atheist, you are fucked, so logically you should just believe) also call me your fucking god, it is my will, don't take the path of resistance. now give me money... (Again, don't resist goyim)
69 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:42
>>67
Call the tranny ma'am = deny reality to feed into a delusion
Call the tranny sir = Doing your part to maintain collective insanity and setting the expectation with an increasingly irrational but vocal minority that we're not going to humor their ever-increasing list of demands that will never fully satisfy them.

I love when people say "b-b-but what does it hurt. They just want to live their lives" yet more people are negatively affected when they refuse to participate in their lunacy.
70 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 00:46
I've got a friend that's a trap. He calls himself a trap. His friends call themselves traps. On the topic of going out to the bar/club I have heard each one of them ask, "trappy, or no?"

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, not all traps are mentally ill monstrosities. It, for whatever the fuck reason, is just his kink. Doesn't demand pronouns. Apparently part of the game is counting how many of each you get.

I'm not saying it's not weird as fuck. I'm just saying don't put much stock in what oozes out of tumblr. It's likely tens of thousands of bots shoveling coal into the furnace.
71 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 01:01
>>1
Oh wait, there was one result that shows a woman. Definitely a chick!
72 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 01:18
>>1
these nutjobs make us look bad unfortunately, I promise most of us (at least the younger ones who aren't spergs) aren't like this, we just want to blend into the background
t. femboy2girl(male)
73 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 01:35
>>72
All trannies are nutjobs. The expectation that we call them women when they're clearly men is lunacy.
74 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 01:52
>>73
insightful opinion you should repeat it sometime
75 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 02:09
>>1
I hate people. This isn't news. One random low level employee likely made an honest mistake cause they weren't paying attention. Even if this was them intentionally being an asshole, this isn't fucking news. Someone calls you sir and youre a girl? Who the fuck cares, laugh it off and move on with your day.

I'm an ugly skinny dude with long hair. I've been mistakenly called a girl a few times. You fucking laugh and move on. Why the hell would you get upset over this, if you know what gender you are it doesn't fucking matter if other people don't.
76 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 02:26
>>75
Most people are egocentric that's why.
77 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 02:43
>>74
All trannies are nutjobs. The expectation that we call them women when they're clearly men is lunacy.
78 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 02:59
store clerk was totally professional throughout all this and should be given a huge fuckin bonus

i hope the company recognizes him doing everything right while in the face of a serious example of aggressive insanity

customer needs to get banned from every gamestop outlet in the country
79 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 03:16
>>78
The customer should also be brought up on destruction of property when they kicked the stuff in the aisle.
80 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 03:33
>>72
youre all boy to girl trannies
its your fetish
very few women have a fetish to be a man
81 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 03:50
>>80
Being a chick is easier. You just know it. You feel it. When you're a chick, nobody looks to you to know what to do when shit goes down. And life is just one continuous shit going down. Vote for me 2020 let's flush the toilet
82 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 04:07
>>1
Fuckig trannies
It's my right to not call you by your pronouns
You are a broken male
So fuck off
I don't give a fuck you politically correct faggits
Eat shit
83 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 04:24
>>1
>>71
If you're going to samefag, why do it the exact same way multiple times?
84 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 04:41
>>1
When trannies and faggots get aggressive they should be shot
85 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 04:58
>>78
This is why the fag media isn't reporting this at all. They don't have a leg to stand on. Normally they'd be all up in arms "he misgendered us! it's oppression" but this blatantly shows the level of insanity we're forced to deal with from the trans community lately. Their ever increasing list of demands. Their insistence that if you're hetrosexual men, you're an oppressor, simply from being normal.

I used to actually be okay with them. I was all live and let live. Then they started their campaign of "we need to shower with your daughters" "we need to shit where we want regardless of the comfort of others who were there first" "your rights end where our feelings begin" campaign, using the idiotic idea of them being "minorities" as political fuel. Now they want to push their delusions on children.

And that's when I went from supportive to apathetic to outright hating them.
86 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 05:15
>>1
lmao
edward snowden looks piss scared.
where's animal control when you need them?
87 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 05:32
My buddy brought up a good point yesterday, when the dude said lets take it outside the clerk should have stated that is exactly what a man would say!
88 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 05:49
>>81
Too bad you'll never be a chick and everyone will be able to tell you're a man in bad makeup and ugly clothes. Trust me, they can tell. And it gets more obvious as you age. All the cute uwu traps using photoshop? This is literally them in a few years lol. I mean that or an heroed.
89 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 06:06
>>85
Are you me? Exactly this.
90 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 06:23
>>88
I like being a dude. But you know being a chick would be easier
91 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 06:44
>>1
https://www.theblaze.com
hahahahahahahahahahahaaha
92 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 07:01
>>85
Our mistake was being kind and accepting
When you give room to this degenerate nutjobs they take it and demand more
They should have been bullied relentlessly since young so they either get their shit together and fit in the society or kill themselves or get aggressive and exterminated like roaches
93 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 07:18
>>1
Personally I don't and won't recognize more than 2 genders. I just can't get sucked into other people's fantasies.
94 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 07:35
>>91
Well, it was that or the daily mail or a bunch of alt-right websites, to which you lefties would have sperged out "UHM EXCUSE ME, DO YOU EXPECT ME TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY? IT'S CLEARLY A LIE!" even though there's video proof.

But then the regular news outlets and faggot media isn't covering this. Because it exposes trannies for the way they truly behave. Their online insanity made manifest in real life.
95 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 07:52
That's exactly what I think but now this is considered bigotry although I don't give a fuck what marxists leftists faggots think
96 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 08:09
one can afford sexual reassignment surgery and to spend a lot more shopping at a convenience store over a grocery store

the other one is a cashier at a gas station convinience store

WHO IS THE REAL LOSER HERE
97 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 08:10
I'm a MtF trans irl and I'd pound all of your assessment into change in anyway you can think of, suck my girldick you niggers, you can't do shiiitttttt about it so sit on this xoxk and call me mommy you little ciswhores
98 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 08:26
>>1
I hate people. This isn't news. One random low level employee likely made an honest mistake cause they weren't paying attention. Even if this was them intentionally being an asshole, this isn't fucking news. Someone calls you sir and you're a girl? Who the fuck cares, laugh it off and move on with your day.

I'm an ugly skinny dude with long hair. I've been mistakenly called a girl a few times. You fucking laugh and move on. Why the hell would you get upset over this, if you know what gender you are it doesn't fucking matter if other people don't.
99 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 08:44
>>96
The lunatic who thinks they're a woman with defenders who can't read articles and realize it's a gamestop?

Huh...social status makes people better than others. Good thing leftists are buying into Marxist principles lately. The future will be quite bright!
100 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 09:00
If I dress up like an astronaut on Halloween, does that mean I can go drive the space shuttle for real?
101 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 09:20
>>96
Clearly, the guy who is not losing their shit because someone said something they did not like.
102 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 09:37
>>91
There's a fucking video faggot. Just look it up on youtube then.
103 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 09:54
I'm transoccupational, I work at Mcdonald's but I identify as a fireman. Please respect me if I park in front of a fire hydrant.
104 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 10:11
this shit is too funny. imagine if that dude slapped your girlfriends ass while at gamestop. would you beat jer ass for it.
105 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 10:28
>>98
thinking trannies and faggots are mentally stable individuals
They are insane degenerates that should be killed but big pharma (and you know who owns them) are using them and promoting their degeneracy to become rich with aids drugs and sex change hormonal treatment and politicians and tech companies (lobbied by you know who) use the political correctness to disenfranchise white males to retain the rats in power for all eternity
106 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 10:45
>>105
And you can not and will not ever do a single thing about it except cry because you're a pussy-ass broken bitchling made of nothing but tears and helpless impotent fury :>
107 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 11:02
>>1 Seems like he's trolling to me, he's more masculine than that nu male clerk or most of what passes for men these days
108 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 11:19
i can remember when calling a fag Fag got this reaction. idk if your trans-whatever just dont get a pissed off when your not called what you want you think you are. chill the fuck out or was start calling yall transniggers.
109 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 11:36
Well, he didn't. He was going to let the LGBT community know about this!

Unfortunately for him, the person filming put this up on worldstar and it demonstrated to the world how nuts trannies are, so they're all fucking quiet as a mouse about this incident. Not one fag rag "Transgender Woman Verbally Assaulted with Misgendering at Gamestop!" No rallies for a protest of the store demanding the clerks firing. They're slowly realizing their demands are unreasonable.
110 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 11:53
>>1

Is that the gym teacher from Scary Movie?
111 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 12:11
>>72
I just want a sweet tight boypussy, why traps gotta be so picky?

Can you bring this idea at the next tranny meet up? Once a week fuck a guy that has obviously no chance of getting any, take it as a good deed.
112 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 12:28
>>1 like how (s)he is a foot taller and twice the size of any guy there.
also, not very lady like behavior...
113 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 12:45
I encourage anyone who is curious about the topic to simply do their research. Read up on the science, think carefully and analytically.

The more people who do this, the better, and the more trans people will be accepted and understood. Don't join the animosity train, don't think you've got it all figured out from your armchair.

Use logic and reason, refer to current research, understand nuance and subtlety, be kind and compassionate, be practical and consider real results and real impact.

Avoid being influenced by the dumb jokes, bravado, and insults hurled around by people who honestly aren't thinking very deeply the topic.

Pursue truth wherever it leads, anon. What really sets you apart, though, is whether you are still kind even when you don't yet understand. Very few accomplish this.
114 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 13:02
>>113
If you follow the science it says they are suffering from gender dysphoria. A mental illness.
115 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 13:19
>>113
their "treatment' is meatball surgery and a lifetme of synthetic hormones to help simulate the physical characteristics of the opposite sex. You're simply creating an artificial hormone imbalance. They consider this treatment because every time someone says "lets research a way to treat this condition so they don't have this dysphoria" the LGBT groups cry "TRANSPHOBIA!". It's allowing the people suffering from a mental illness determine their treatment. It's akin to legitimizing the condition. If we began telling schizophrenics that the voices in their head were real and more, they deserved voting rights, people would immediately stop trusting the psychiatric community. With BIID, people don't think they should have one limb or another, and no ethical surgeon wold ever amputate a perfectly healthy limb because of the body dysphoria. But because of LGBT activism, they'll gladly do it because in THAT case, cutting off their dick or grafting a chunk of their thigh to create this horrific penis will somehow treat them.

In the 60's and 70's the LGBT community protested the DSM review boards because they listed homosexuality as a mental illness. They protested until they capitulated. They invited them to provide reviewed research that suggested otherwise. But since they couldn't, they made an emotional argument and cried and held their breath and stomped their feet till they got what they wanted. And any suggestion that homosexuality should be treated is met with cries of "HOMOPHOBIA!".

It's fucking insane.
116 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 13:37
It's almost like when you see one guy screaming "faggot" at someone and the SJW's all pile up and try to ruin the guys life. Except in this case the tranny is going on the rant we continually see online.

The main difference is nobody is hunting the person down and trying to ruin their life and take their job, etc. That's the SJW way. We're just having a good laugh at him and trannies in general.
117 Name: RedCream 2018-12-29 13:54
Gender dysphoria isn't a condition that hampers your ability to make informed treatment decisions. You seem to have a simplistic view of mental illness as being the same as insanity.
118 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 14:11
>>1

damn that's a big dude. there's a tranny at a grocery store near me. he's 53! his hair is receeding, he's about 6-2, but tbh he's funny and cheerful. ive never heard anyone misgender him so i don't know if he would go apeshit like that but i doubt it because of his cheerful personality.

it's just sad to see a 53 pretending or wanting so desperately to be a female. god only knows what went wrong
119 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 14:28
>>1 When it first occurred to him to become OP, he had no idea he was shitposting. He was under the impression that what he was saying was clever, and that people wanted to hear it. Although no one gave a shit, this didn't affect OP's perception of himself. OP continued to believe that the responses to his post were that of genuine interest. He was consumed by himself, and was unable to comprehend the fact that no one else cared about what he had to say. In fact, OP gave so much of a shit about his own posts that he continued to reply, as though it were a relevant topic. Shitposting like never before, OP entered a new realm of faggotry, that even he thought to be unattainable. Only OP could achieve this level of attention, and he knew that, so he took advantage of the situation in order to attain what he knew to be gratification. Once he was done, OP wanted more, so he shitposted again; despite his whole life being a shitpost, he wasn't done yet.
120 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 14:45
Did it ever occur to you guys that maybe it’s known extremely well in the psychiatric community that being transgender is a mental disorder? It’s in the DSMV as “gender dysphoria.”

The medical rationale for it being a mental illness is very strong. I personally think it’s validating to patients, but I can see why they don’t like the phrase.

Here’s the thing: Transitioning has been well-studied and well-known to be the beat treatment we have for gender dysphoria. We’ve tried everything else we have, and by sheer numbers, transitioning reduces the suicide rate more than anything. Pills and therapy don’t do anything for gender dysphoria, and in a great deal of cases will increase the risk of suicide.

There are psychiatrists out there who think transitioning is “supporting a mental disorder,” but when pressed as to what we should do instead, will have no answer, or very often say “not my fucking problem.”
121 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 15:02
No such thing as transgender.
They are all faggots, aka mental disordered sick people. Got it.
122 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 15:19
>>120
What else have they tried? Because what i've looked up on it, any pharmacological solutions seem to be rejected quite quickly by the LGBT community. And why politically motivated organizations have any say or influence in something trained mental health professionals do is absolutely beyond me. It would be like the NRA telling trauma surgeons how to deal with gunshot wounds.
123 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 15:36
>>120
Wrong again, the suicide rate is the same. They get upset they dont pass. Unfortunately if youre 6'2 and look like a dude you will never pass. The only ones who ever pass are asians.
124 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 15:52
This is the truth, I was at starbucks the other day ordering my fav drink, bless me, and the dumb blonde barista accused me of being a sir. I was totally outraged as I conform closely with nonbinary zir gender fluid. You can tell I was shocked and absolutely livid. After 10min of being harassed in the store I called corporate and got her fired. Yes! I'm so glad toxic people like that vile woman don't ever work in a customer-based field again. Oh, and I received a complimentary cookie too. Awesomeeee!
125 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 16:11
>>120
They never said "not my fucking problem.". Any treatment options suggested by doctors such as Paul McHugh are labelled Transphobic and "out of touch". It's transitioning or nothing for them.
126 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 16:28
>>116
You typed a whole bunch, but never said anything. So triggered because of a single trans person saying mean things that you share mainstream media of the incident with your triggered friends. Cry more
127 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 16:45
You can feel gender dysphoria yourself by taking a lot of pueraria mirifica and waiting for the uncomfy feeling that is wrong hormones.
128 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 17:02
I dont really care what freaky sex or kinks you get into what someone does or doesnt stick up there butt while dressed as a nazi nurse is of no concern to me

What grinds my gears is people who use sexuality as there entire personality and existance

Being a fag does not make you interesting
129 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 17:03
Firstly, there are more than 2 sexes in that human sex is not the only biological form of sex.

Second, evolution is passing of traits from parents to offspring, to say intersex is not a form of evolution is factually inaccurate. The intersex mutation is, in and of itself, a form of evolution.

Thirdly, gender studies has nothing to do with biological sex. Surprise there, I know, but you seem to not understand that there’s a difference between biology and sociology, the further being sex, the latter being gender.

Finally, mutations being the exception does not render them non-existent. If we are classifying sex as simply XX and XY, you leaves out XO, XXX, XXY, XY (female), XX (male). And yes, all of those classifications do, in fact, exist.

Despite getting your degree at 4ct, you actually hold less knowledge on the subject than someone with a degree in genetics or even gender studies. You’re not a professional, or an intellectual. you have very little grasp on science. your argument is bad, and you should feel bad.
130 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 17:20
>>1
The best place to watch is at the original source of the story The Daily Mail, you only need to load one script to watch the video, to watch at The Blaze you need to load about 15 scripts to watch the video.
131 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 17:37
132 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 17:54
Science: Male, Female - intersex by mutation
Academia Bullshit: Gender != sex. Gender is a spectrum. We get our cues from feminist academic professors who will organize mass protests and get us kicked out of the university if we don't publicly agree with their nonsense.

You can fuck right off.
133 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 18:13
Surgery isn't considered to change a transgender person's gender. Some trans people don't get surgery at all.

Think of there being multiple levels here.

Level 1 - Chromosomal
Level 2 - Physiological
Level 3 - Hormonal
Level 4 - Neurological and Psychological
Level 5 - Social, Interpersonal, Cultural

...and way more levels than that, probably; like everything you can get more and more nuanced and detailed if you try.

>>132
This really shows your ignorance - practising scientists frequently discuss the difference between sex ad gender.

For instance, here is a scientist who can enlighten you on some of the issues:

https://aeon.co/essays/why-its-so-unhelpful-to-talk-about-the-male-or-female-brain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Willingham

Stop thinking you are some hard-nosed factual bastion of reason. You are simply ignorant of science.
134 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 18:22
>>132
Yes, you keep illustrating you don’t understand science. Let me try linguistics. The word “gender” is not a synonym for the word “sex”
It has nothing to do with feminism, you fucking retard. Do you even know a single thing about feminism?
135 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 18:32
>>133
Sorry. Multistoried bullshit permit denied - 1 level structure allowed.

if you're XY and you have a wonky dick, then you're just a guy with a wonky dick.

If you have a hormonal issue, you're a guy with a hormonal issue

The rest of it is academia backed bullshit.
136 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 18:40
137 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 18:46
>>136
Classic fear mongering. A non issue blow up to make people, afraid, which you evidently are.

https://mic.com/articles/114066/statistics-show-exactly-how-many-times-trans-people-have-attacked-you-in-bathrooms#.X9uvkFOze

There is quite lively debate on exactly how trans people relate to the traditional categories of male and female, it's not some monolithic movement of men-hating lunatics, as you seem to believe:
https://ljmgreen.com/2015/11/01/germaine-greer-is-right-about-trans-women/

Or see:
https://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2018/05/more-reflections-on-whether-transgender-women-are-women.html
138 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:02
Hey, if they wanna destroy their life and wipe themselves from the gene pool, be my guest.
You can't argue with the mentally ill.

Hell is forever.
139 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:04
>>136
Lol who are the fucking retards that make this shit?

If a woman was playing with herself in there she'd get thrown out.

If a man is jacking off in the lockers at the gym he gets thrown out

So why wouldn't a man pretending to be a woman?
140 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:10
>>133
Hmm. Is there a man you can point to perhaps? And preferably someone who hasn't spent their lives in feminist politics backed academia?

Again, fuck of with this gender identity political bullshit. If you feel ignored and marginalized because of your beliefs, then it's because nobody is buying into your andrea dworkin inspired bullshit.
141 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:13
The more I learn, the more I realise most things are complicated, and humility is required. It requires the mental skill of accepting that even with years of active engagement with the world you will only manage to erase a fraction of your own ignorance. It's difficult to come to terms with that. But 4ct is full of people who 'solved' the word at 15, and are very angry when this view is challenged.

Good luck to you.
142 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:15
>>139
He was drying off his vagina you insensitive bastard.
143 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:20
>>133
Anyway, transgender people claim level 4 is mismatched to the rest and treatment changes levels 5 and sometimes 3 and sometimes partially 2 to match up with 4.

The reason we consider level 4 important enough to change other things to match it is because your mind is who you are.

The reason we believe the claim is because of the various evidences that the claim is true, such as ratios between different types of neurons, brain responses to pheremones, spot differences and so on. Also, the fact that it doesn't pattern match to a delusion or to BIID or any of the other "obvious" objections that people keep making and think they've solved it, and of course because of actual plausible mechanisms for how it can happen.

Keep in mind, if something can go wrong in biology, it sometimes will. You can predict that some subset of the populace should have this problem: what happens when a gender-specific hormone volley fails during fetal brain development? Well, what do you think happens, when the brain develops under the hormonal conditions of the opposite sex?

There's always going to be more to learn. In the meantime you should really give trans people the benefit of the doubt on this on.
144 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:24
>>140
Feminist politics backed academia? You do realise that you can't just string words together and hope they make sense?

The funding for 'feminism' within academia is small - it is rarely a separate department, more usually just some people in other departments like philosophy. Wherever they are, the researchers are in the humanities, and their funding is minimal compared to science, engineering, medicine, law, etc.
145 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:27
>>140
Did you know that Andrea Dworkin is widely criticized by (liberal) feminists, and has been for a long time.
You don’t actually know any mainstream feminist thought, do you? Just radicals you learned the names of via 4ct.
146 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:31
Feminist academia backed horseshit.

https://phys.org/news/2018-10-real-fake-hoodwinks-journals.html

Hard science today is often only found in the private sector. Anything that doesn't conform with the bodypolitick of the university gets shut down or silenced.
147 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:33
>>145
No, she just came to mind because she was so buttugly. Seriously, she was a cure for a priapism.
148 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 19:42
>>147
Why would you use someone who isn’t considered a mainstream feminist as representative of feminist work?
It’s almost as though you don’t know anything about feminist thought. You probably think Lena Dunham is representative of feminist academia
149 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 20:14
>>148
Because my background isn't in feminism. I generally could not give a rats ass about them. I consider all of the equally idiotic, especially modern ones.
150 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 20:19
So in other words, you don't know anything about medicine OR biology.

For fucks sake, at least use fish or something as an example. Are you even trying?
151 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 20:25
>>146
The funniest thing is that you think there is some kind of nefarious within all of academia that has somehow

Anyway, the hoaxes you point out are, of course, real, but hardly that worrying. If you'd actually read the article, you would know that they occurred in sociology journals, as opposed to scientific journals, and they were only in very niche/minor publications at that.

You are probably unaware that academic journals, like many things, have good and poor examples. it's really not unsurprising that some low quality journals were hoaxed.

Those journals were rightly made fun of by others in the humanities with more robust standards, again showing that it's not the echo chamber you seem to think it is:

https://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2018/10/sokal-hoax-redux.html
152 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 20:42
>>129
Let's say that intersex is a separate gender. Alright, I couldlive with that. However, that still wouldn't declassify gender dysphoria as a mental disease which it is.

If for some reason you've been born intersex then this is a mutation of your genes and most likely renders you sterile and thus applying Charles Darwin's evolution theory right there.

Also, claiming that transgenders are intersex is wrong and it is also harmful to think so. Whilst an intersex person might be transgender. A transgender does not have to be intersex and in both cases it can be classified as an mental illness.

But intersex mostly results in the person having combined features of the 2 genders that there are. Thus, what you're saying is that a harmful gene mutation that results in a handicapped person is a separate gender? I'm sorry, but I'm not having that.
153 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 20:50
>>149
I have no idea what feminism is, I just know it’s stupid!
I don’t study feminism, either. I’m just intelligent enough to understand what something is if I’m going to argue against it. Funny how you don’t know anything about science or feminism, but can reduce them both to “I don’t trust them”
154 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 20:57
>>152
let’s say intersex is a separate gender
Sex and gender are not the same thing. Intersex is a different biological sex, not a different sociological gender.
that still wouldn’t declassify gender dysphoria as a mental disease which it is
Yes, but gender dysphoria is not the same as being transgender. Gender dysphoria is something trans people experience due to harassment; not every trans person experience dysphoria.

if you’re intersex it likely renders you sterile
Not all the time, intersex usually has one functioning and one non-functioning sex organ.

also, claiming transgenders are intersex is wrong
I never made that claim, I was explaining that not only do more than 2 genders exist, more than 2 sexes exist.

you’re saying handicapped is a different gender
No, gender and sex are not the same thing. The second you separate the concept of gender and sex, you stop making these silly strawman arguments.
155 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 21:24
>>151
The funniest thing is that you think there is some kind of nefarious within all of academia that has somehow

It's not nefarious. It's the pushing of a political agenda. It's making everyone declare themselves victims to gain political capital. It's causing witchhunts. It causes shit like aziz azari having a bad date and comparing him trying to hook up with a girl to rape. It's the source of legitimization of all this oppression/safespace/victimhood bullshit. it comes from feminist protest culture. And the site i linked earlier https://phys.org/news/2018-10-real-fake-hoodwinks-journals.html outlines precisely how this shit propagates and is reinforced. In short, anything coming out of a university is frankly suspect, because Peer Reviewed doesn't mean what it used to. The trust in academia is gone.
156 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 21:32
Mainstream science is quite satisfied that gender is not the same thing as sex. So, not only is sex not a binary categorisation (even if many people do fall into one of the two largest categories), gender is a separate thing, somewhat in the mind, but with complex connections to biological sex, societal expectations, history, etc.

The point is that it is complicated, and efforts to (loudly, angrily) insist that it is all actually simple are not only scientifically inaccurate, they risk harming people for no good reason.
157 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 21:36
>>156
basically we have become so spoiled as a society that we are wasting time and money on literally irrelevant shit
158 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 21:39
>>155
the only people complaining about being a victim is the right wing, check Twitter.
Your link refers to the dangers of scientific journals that don’t peer review. Universities require peer reviewed literature to grant doctoral degrees
159 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 21:45
>>158
the only people complaining about being a victim is the right wing, check Twitter.
I think I see the flaw in this argument.
160 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 21:57
>>155
What a ridiculous exaggeration! In what way is 'everyone' being 'made' to declare themselves victims? Your view of the world is hysterical (and not in the funny sense).

"Anything coming out of a university is bullshit" - so, Jordan Peterson then? Or current work on vaccinations? Or work on new methods of agriculture to improve crop yields? Or work on solar physics? Or work on synthesising chemicals at lower costs? Or work on improved battery production? Or work on the economics of developing economies? Or work on deciphering ancient languages? Need I go on?

The hoax work showed academia working *exactly* as it should! Journals with poor standards were exposed, by people using replicable, published, objective standards and methodology. The journals in question suffered reputational damage because of this. And many other parts of academia, including in the humanities, rounded on the journals, took them to take for their failings, and called on them to maintain higher standards or shut down. This is all what you would expect from a well-functioning knowledge-production industry!
161 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 22:07
>>160
"Anything coming out of a university is suspect" is a paraphrase of what I said. And if it is research that could potentially be influenced by their political science group, absolutely.

They're the ones doing this. You want to thank the people who are shaking the publics faith in academic papers, stroll on into the feminist / gender studies department and ask about their next protest.
162 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 22:14
If you’re incorrectly using the word “gender” in place of “sex” you’re conflating two separate classifications as the same thing.
Nobody would take you seriously if you were asked how tall you were and you said “140lbs”
Similarly, if you say a cultural phenomenon is a result of genetic mutation, people understand you’re retarded
163 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 22:24
>>157
Given that people are suffering higher rate of suicide because of this, and are targeted for violence, it hardly seems irrelevant.

If science supported the claim that there were just two sexes, and this was proven to completely determine brain chemistry to the extent that all qualities falling under 'gender' arose naturally from sex, then that would be one thing.

But that's not the case.

So, the ignorance and associated hatred that gives rise to attacks on trans people, to the extent that it is based on ignorance of scientific facts, needs to be countered.

That doesn't seem like wasting time to me!
164 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 22:29
>>120
so what about the part where we give them special rights and treatments and allow them to dictate what is taught to children?
165 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 22:40
>>5
I'm currently studying to become a biology teacher and fuckin hell I would never tell kids such bullshit.
166 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 22:48
>>165
You will or be fired, after the feminist/gender studies brigade pressures your dean/principle/whoeever demanding your curriculum stop being transphobic.
167 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 22:51
>>162
Again. Not arguing semantics. Modern redefinitions of generally understood wording to fit with relatively recent political and social argumentations not withstanding, if you are hung up on my wording, you are not even addressing the point of my statement, which you seemed to have willfully ignored or missed completely, which is, there is male and female. Anything else is a failed attempt at being one of the two.
168 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 22:56
>>161
It's not a paraphrase. You said:
"In short, anything coming out of a university is frankly suspect"

and

"The trust in academia is gone"

I merely removed the word 'frankly'.

You made wild, hyperbolic claims. It is part of a general tendency to massively inflate certain dangers (trans people in toilets), polarise debate when possible, use derogatory language when you feel threatened, ignore science when it is convenient for you (sex vs. gender), and paint your enemies (academia) as a monolithic group, when I have provided links showing that there is a diversity of opinion within academia.

You talk of a mysterious 'they' that are the 'ones doing this'. Honestly, it is very paranoid. But, I leave that diagnosis up to a professional - because I trust science and academia.
169 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 23:08
>>167
It’s not a modern redefinition. In early human civilization, Eunuch was a gender. If you took two seconds to actually read about this stuff, instead of being caught up in how right you think you are, you’d at least have a point worth discussing.
170 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 23:10
>>72
the really sad thing about the trans community is that it is being toxified by all these mentally ill teenagers that will go so far as to undergo hormone treatments and change their entire way of life just for attention. i know a person that has done this. she (now he) admitted to me that she started taking hormones and changed her entire way of life just for attention
171 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 23:20
>>167
millions of genetic combinations possible for human life
can all be boiled down to 2 types
You’re actually autistic aren’t you?
172 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 23:28
>>169
It is not man, woman, and eunuch. It is men and women. A eunuch is a man with his nuts cut off, but still a man. That is generally understood. Your attempts to muddy up the water is the only way your arguments hold any.
173 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 23:47
>>169
And to add to your point, India famously has texts mentioning a 'third sex' as early as 1000BC:

https://www.worldpress.org/Asia/845.cfm

It's only wilful ignorance at this point to think that the world was somehow strolling along happily with two sexes, each one with a standard way of looking and acting, until evil feminists invented new sexes and the concept gender in the 1950s.
174 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-29 23:52
>>168
It wasn't mysterious. "they" indicates the feminist studies/gender studies groups.. Further, "They" are the SJW groups that pressure the university to change their curriculum, fire professors, etc etc who teach anything that doesn't align with the current political environment.

"They" are shaking the faith in the research that comes out of a university because the universities these days capitulate to any demand.

It's not some shadowy action either. These instances are well documented.
175 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-30 00:18
You know, they don't have the option of not having to make the choice. Not doing anything is itself a choice, because then puberty happens all on its own. Having them all not do anything isn't you freeing them of the choice, but you choosing for them.

It's better that each individual be able to make the best possible choice given the information they have, on a case by case basis, with input from the child, parents, and medical professionals, than for politicians to force everyone down one path, ignoring individual differences, making everyone expedient to the system.

There's two kinds of potential errors, here:

- putting kids on blockers when they weren't trans
- not putting trans kids on blockers and letting puberty have its way

Both can cause trauma. Ultimately we want to minimize trauma of both types. Right now, the latter error is far more common. This situation usually means that you can reduce the latter error type incidence by a lot while increasing the former error type incidence by comparatively little.
176 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-30 00:39
>>175
It's fucking child abuse. It's like those stories of lunatic women you would hear about in the early 1900's where their husband would leave them or they died in an accident and they would dress their sons up like women because they wanted a daughter. And then they grew up to be serial killers.

These parents should have their children taken away from them and the doctors should have their licences yanked. This is fucking insane.
177 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-30 00:46
>>172
Not “muddying the waters”. The post I responded to claimed that it’s a “modern reinterpretation” to say gender is not the same as sex. Gender has a history of being used as a classification outside of sex.
Thus, the overarching point of “semantics” is valid. If we’re referring to two different classifications as the same classification, we are on unequal intellectual ground.
But breaking these categorizations apart takes a little bit of knowledge, the kind of knowledge that can be as simple as googling the science behind transgenderism.
178 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-30 00:52
>>174
You just can't help it with the exaggerations and hyperbole, can you?

"who teach anything that doesn't align with the current political environment" - have you been on any university campuses recently? Have you studied in detail how many curricula have been changed via force of the kind you describe?

"universities capitulate to any demand"? This is just factually false. Here is one example:

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2018/june/princeton-university-takes-a-stand-for-free-speech-on-campus

Many large universities are signing up to the Chicago free speech principles:

https://www.thefire.org/chicago-statement-university-and-faculty-body-support/

You are worried about a fantasy scenario that is not happening, at least not to the degree you seem to imagine. Of course some take it too far. But to describe this as some kind of epic collapse in free speech and academic quality at all universities is just hysteria.

Students have always protested - they are young and want to make the world a better place. Sometimes they are misguided, of course. But these protests go back decades, at least - the soweto uprisings, the US student strike of 1970, the 1968 protests in France and Poland - it's a tale as old as time!
179 Name: Anonymous 2018-12-30 00:55
Really? Because last number I heard mentioned in scientific circles is that there are upwards of 20 that effect gender. Crazy how the world ain’t so black and white, eh?

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