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The great wall of U.S.A.

77 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 02:13
Why did hillary's little email scandal just miraculously disappear?
78 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 02:17
Because Trump won the election.

Aka, they never gave a fuck about the emails, just that the public thought that they were a big deal.
79 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 03:09
Hillary and Obama may as well be dead. Bringing them up as an excuse for whatever Trump is doing is retarded. The man is fucking appointing his family members to important positions in the government. He is constantly doing shit that weakens whatever alliances we have with western democracies that have largely kept the world at peace for the past 80 years. And the worst part is that he seems to not really care about anything, I don't think anyone republican or democrat can sincerely claim that Trump has any interest in learning anything about sound policy on any foreign or domestic front. I just don't see how he could accomplish anything remotely good.
80 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 04:52
You're probably right.

Point still stands though why the fuck is this a good idea? A wall?

Hire/train more agents, spend that 20-40 billion on drones to monitor the border, buy more junk you don't really need on the tax payers dime because at least somebody is getting paid.

A fucking wall though.
81 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 05:20
Thing is, illegals pay taxes. Not just taxes on stuff that they buy every day, but they pay into the tax system with every paycheck.

See, they use a fake SS# to get hired. And that end of the system, where taxes get paid to the federal government, isn't monitored all that closely. Why should they disqualify people for paying into the system?

The other end, when refunds are issues, the SS#s are intensely monitored because that's the part where the government is paying out money.

So, basically, illegals pay into the system with fake SS#s and then never claim their returns, so the government gets to keep all that tax money, even if they'd have gotten a huge refund if they were a valid citizen.

So, you can see why the government isn't very keen on immigration reform.
82 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 05:30
A ten foot wall needs a 12 foot ladder.
It's pointless and stupid.

I'd sooner they spend the money on helping our veterans from the stupid fucking wars where they get dismembered.

But nah, let's build a wall, while these fucking companies keep hiring the illegals because the fucking gringos are too lazy to fucking work.

Why do they come here?
Because they are being given jobs that whites won't do. Eliminate the source of the jobs and the wall will be unnecessary.

What a pointless gesture. Well I take that back, I'm sure the gesture is to line the pockets of the contractors who get the job.
Fucking bastards will probably use migrant labor to build it.
83 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 05:39
I would love to agree with you expect for the fact that we do spend a fuck ton of money on veteran benefits.

But nah, let's build a wall, while these fucking companies keep hiring the illegals because the fucking gringos are too lazy to fucking work.

Despite unemployment being an issue, you have to be naive to not see your own context clues as to why they hire illegals. It has absolutely nothing to do with people not wanting to do the work itself. It has everything to do with the pay. Nobody wants to accept way below minimum wage because in our country it is illegal. Maybe you wouldn't know because based on your vernacular you sound awfully a lot like a Mexican.
84 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 05:50
Couple of states did a thing where they made hiring illegals a big crime. Georgia and Mississippi, I think. Anyways, when that happened, the illegals stopped showing up to do the work.

And citizens refused to do the work. So, whole crops sat out there in the field and rotted. They literally couldn't get people to do it, no matter how much money they offered.

Georgia eventually made their prisoners get out there and do it. Which is a lot closer to slave labor than illegals doing it.
85 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 06:10
They literally couldn't get people to do it, no matter how much money they offered.

I'm assuming they weren't paying very well. People will do anything for decent pay or even crappy pay like people in the military.
86 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 06:33
I invite everyone here who thinks walls wont stop immigrants to attempt to phase through one right now. didn't work out to well did it? Success!

Not all illegals can afford other methods of crossing and cross by foot. Wall will stop that. Plus its impossible to make accurate statistics measuring the effectiveness of something that does not yet exist. At this point its just speculation.

The wall will work, and it will be glorious.
87 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-16 07:03
I like in California so things are a bit different. Jobs are hard to come by in cities surrounding LA.(that aren't the chinese ones) Plus, it is California so the competitiveness will vary depending on the state.
88 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-17 06:46
It's an unrealistic pipedream.

Mexicans will find a way. The actual amount of manpower and resources required to stop every motivated spic from getting past the border is ridiculous.

A wall is going to lower the amount but you're not going to stop them completely, it just means the most motivated get through.

For the Mexicans that would probably be the drug mules. So you're going to loose your gardeners but keep your cocaine.
89 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-18 13:38
it's just pointless and a waste of money, besides being an idiotic idea overall in the first place. it also only focuses on illegal Mexican immigrants, what about illegal immigrants from other parts of the world? those who come by plane or boat? in no world does that wall make sense or benefit anyone.
90 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-19 20:30
It is regrettable that the leftists still want to take advantage of others and maintain human exploitation as a part of the status quo.

The border wall will not stop every criminal, this is true, but even if it saves a few thousand lives a year from rape and murder, it is very much worth it.
91 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-21 03:22
The "wall" would have marginal impact while expending excessive resources. A more reasonable response would be to assign more resources to capture, intern, penalize and then deport individuals that are in the country illegally.

You know, the same thing that would happen to most of us if we tried to live in another country without a valid visa.
92 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 04:40
the problem is keeping them out, even after deportation. We have too much border to keep staffed, so we need walls in addition to surveillance tech and live people to keep to make a lasting difference in the human trafficking and illegal immigration.

We also need to stop rewarding illegal immigrants with welfare. It is only adding to the problem.
93 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 07:53
Lets just see what actually enforcing immigration law does before we build the border wall.

And while we're at it lets call it what it is. A multi-billion dollar GOVERNMENT HANDOUT from the president to his friends in the construction industry.
94 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 08:25
like the great wall of China. Just a government handout, not a great human accomplishment.
95 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 08:37
I'm not convinced we can stop them on such a long border and recently the argument is being made that most are here on overstayed visas anyhow.

That's why I think we'd do better by treating them like criminals instead of economic refugees. If they thought that they might get imprisoned by living here illegally and would never feel safe then FAR fewer would make the trip.

This includes stopping all programs that cater to illegals like identity cards, drivers licenses, sanctuary cities....
96 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 08:45
Yes, lets overpopulate our already crowded prisons with people who probably live better behind bars.

There's no easy solution. Go ahead and build some dumbass wall, spend the billions to maintain it constantly. See how well it works.

Lock every illegal up, spends millions upon millions in housing, food, healthcare, provide the funds to staff already understaffed institutions.
97 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 08:53
Yes, the wall cannot do it alone.

The ones that over-stay visas do need to be found and deported. Welfare and other benefits need to be held back.

And any college, university, or other school that declares itself a sanctuary for illegal immigrants should lose not only tax paid funding, but their accreditation as a school.

Let's see how fast those pampered children start standing up to illegal immigration when they find out that their degrees are going to become worthless.
98 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 09:12
And just think of all the civil forfeiture (theft) of all the land needed to build that wall.
99 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 09:37
The fucking stupidest thought of these retards is that they think that somehow if they are rounding them all up and putting them in prisons and paying for their flights out of the country that we will some how spend less money.
100 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 09:57
Old people are the largest detriment to our economics next to the Military Industrial Complex. Then comes Welfare, which is only being exploited at 12%ish. And that's not just beaners, that's also white trash and negroes. Removal costs a fuckload of money. You need to hire ICE agents out the wazoo, you also need to detain them in our already over crowded prisons at the cost of the tax payer and you also must pay for their flight out of the country.

Meanwhile if you don't displace them they continue to pay local taxes, the only taxes they avoid are federal and those are robbery anyways.

I know being racist is the trendy thing to do but economically it's retarded.
101 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 10:16
Well, let's all assume that that's true. It's not (except for the "other people cost money too" part), but I don't have the numbers at hand and it's not really relevant to my argument.

I'm perfectly willing to take a net loss if it means removing brown invaders.
102 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 10:24
let's all assume that that's true
but it's not true so let's stop assuming it's true because no
I don't have the numbers at hand when I can simply use the internet that I am using to shitpost
I will shoot myself in the foot because of my beliefs despite there being a more efficient solution to some of the problems I clearly recognize and am concerned about
103 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 10:29
Most are coming in through programs such as the h1b visa or work permits. The same is happening in places like Australia. You cut off those visas and remove the ability for non-whites to come and you will solve your problem.
104 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 11:06
My argument has less to do with the burden that spics place on the economy and more to do with the fact that only white people should be in America. The fact that they lower wages, use government services at a high rate et cetera is just kind of a side issue.
105 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 11:15
It's a stupid waste of money and pathetic ploy by an orange douche to get simpletons to vote for him. Sadly it worked, because a large amount of mongers don't know there is already a wall.
106 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 11:25
Maybe I just don't get it. Other than having a victim complex just like the whale womxn of tumblr I don't understand peoples problems with other races.

Islam is definitely a problem, and probably should be nuked from orbit, but I think that about all religions.

White people trying to preserve "White Culture" and angry middle class brown people living in the American Melting pot trying to "Preserve Culture" are just two sides of the same coin and are the lowest common denominator. Frankly I hope we all fuck eachother out of "cultural identities" so we can focus on some really good shit. Like colonizing space.
107 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 11:35
Thing is race produces culture, and just like only certain cultures are capable of into, say, the wheel, only certain cultures are capable of into space. Specifically, East Asian culture, because they're ant people and are really good at using/improving on white tech, and European culture, because the drive to explore and transcend will drive them to create the tech in the first place.

Mongelizing and producing one deracinated world culture won't get us to space, it'll make us atomized consumers who die when the oil runs out.
108 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 11:46
You do realize America is what it is today because of europeans coming together and working on building a nation for their own.
109 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 11:57
Or fixing the fucking planet since were absolutely nowhere near any capacity for getting a colony of people successfully distributed to any other planet anywhere and having any chance of survival with the current state of affairs and the way we educate the masses?

People like you disgust me, you act so much like you have it figured out then you propose something as outrageous as 'colonizing space' when we can barely maintain the planet we live on.

Motherfucker when we no longer have a money system, and an educational system that is widely centered around the true sciences and is not such a ridiculous patchwork of misinformation, AND in place of the money system we have a true economy which equitably distributes resources based on a calculated series of algorithms (which we already use on a massive scale, with money value as an interchangeable factor) THEN and ONLY THEN can we realistically ever have the conversation about "how do we now colonize space?"

We are so far away from that point with the public mindset in mind that it is ludicrous to even mention it.
110 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 12:04

You both are so fucking dumb. People didn't consider the Irish or Italians (I'm half italian half irish) as white people because rich folk push to get the lower classes to hate each other so they don't hate the rich. Now, I'm going to get a lot of shit about me being a commie bastard but that's not the case. 90% of rich fucks are born into and are raised in a no fail situation. Only 10% of the rich actually earn their money, them I got no qualms with.

You are getting manipulated by the old money to hate brown people so that when you go to your shitty low paying job you think it's the brown dudes fault rather than the guy that signs your check.

Ironically it's not my problem as I'm not poor, but it's funny that I get to see an entire nation of racist retards think the reason they are poor is because of brown people when that's not the reason your life sucks.
111 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 12:14
Irish were considered white, as were Italians, since they got citizenship and you could only get citizenship at that time if you were white. But sure, buy into leftist memes.

The (((rich))) have an interest in importing brown people because if Pablo gets five dollars for a day of work and goes home to his favela, he won't complain. Steve probably will, because he can remember when the worker wasn't treated like dirt.
112 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 12:33
I think we could still get to space without a true economy which equitably distributes resources based on a calculated series of algorithms, exactly.

NASA did things without... that, and they had Game Boy-level CPUs to work with by the time they did the truly ambitious. 90% of the technological infrastructure underpinning the information infrastructure today wasn't even commonplace almost 20 years ago. Granted, the circumstances to fund and fuel their work and progress was different, but the means were also different while producing results not similar to, say, just getting someone to orbit another body in space.

It wouldn't be perfect, but I can see a future in which we live, and manage to set up an off-world base on some nearby body with our wacky funtime economy. Bright minds had to rise out of the misinformation miasma since time immemorial, you know. It'll happen as long as there's a will.
113 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 13:12
illegal immigrants and drug runners can cross the border all night and day. illegals crossing into the US can bring anything they want with them because it's empty desert. they can drive back and forth from mexico every day with truckloads of drugs. it costs cartels nothing and there is no risk.
border patrol can't catch the illegals now because they are spread out and looking for signs of illegal trespass in scattered spots of the desert. when there is a concrete wall to stop mexicans from illegally coming into America with drugs and human traffic, then the border chaos will end.
after we build the wall active border patrol will have time to focus finding tunnels, protecting the wall, and catching smugglers bringing drugs in cargo trucks
114 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 13:19
Here's some things you clearly don't understand.....
We need really awesome state of the art tech to make it on a potentially hostile planet, which the current economy does not produce, it in fact stifles this technology for the purpose of making greater profits in the future.
You say it wouldn't be perfect, but let me ask you this... how is the central bank of Earth going to adequately regulate an economy it can't even communicate with without years and years of delay? Why would you even want to embrace a primitive economy when the latter serves the benefit of not just the greater population but the ultimate goal of colonization and all the great advancements that would be invented if people did not have to work a 9 to 5 in order to maintain their status quo?
You want to learn some shit? Watch
Zeitgeist, the Movie
Zeitgeist, the Movement

the rest follows. I need say no more.
115 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-22 13:46
Place remote log in machine gun stations to kill of illegals that approach the border. Those that pay to control the machine gun gets to kill illegals that approach. Thus the border wall becomes profitable.
116 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-25 22:08
Who gives a fuck about the (((press))). I hope they completely die off.
117 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-27 23:57
This isn't wrong, it's downright retarded
Mexicans can climb
Mexicans can buy ladders
This is mind-blowingly stupid
118 Name: Anonymous 2017-05-31 09:08
This isn't wrong, it's downright retarded

What is "wrong" and "retarded" about a public works project that will create many jobs?

Mexicans (...) climb, ladders

So? The wall can be concurrently patrolled by the armed forces. A sizable amount of personnel can be drawn from those stationed in peaceful allied nations and from the reserves. To cite a working example, Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, ordered the construction of a border wall around Hungary during the migration crisis that is also patrolled by the Hungarian Defence Force and dramatically reduced the amount of illegal immigration into the country. Not sure if the other countries in the Visegrád Group (V4) are also using the same methods, however, they all have strict immigration controls and they appear to work, especially when contrasted with the open borders policies of the rest of the EU.

I'll end on this note with two questions, how many terrorist attacks have happened in Prague? In Budapest? In Warsaw? How many have happened in London? In Paris? In Brussels?
119 Name: Anonymous 2017-06-01 17:23
Stop importing welfare seekers.
120 Name: Anonymous 2017-06-03 14:03
How does it feel now that your country was conquered by Russia without a shot being fired?
121 Name: Anonymous 2017-06-05 16:04
Maybe we should just bomb the entire middle-east and they won't retaliate.
122 Name: Anonymous 2017-06-05 23:00
123 Name: Anonymous 2017-07-01 07:37
Keep drinking the Kool aid. Going to be so funny in a few years when he's gone. People point out facts all the time, you faggot kkkonseracucks just try to spin them, make fake memes to manipulate people and make it about winning or losing and not what is good for the United States.

Stop lying to yourself with deflection comrade.

The entire intelligence community is not lying about his ties, Comey is not lying, no one is lying about him taking money from charities to pad his bank account, no one's lying about Russia - you faggots will make up and believe conspiracy theories about pedo sex rings and busing people in for votes but will deny the NSA and FBI?

Get off the net. Go beat your sister/wife before fucking her and your daughter in you single room trailer before getting drunk on natty ice and blaming all your problems on niggers and Islam you uneducated propaganda spewing /newpol/tard cuck.
124 Name: Anonymous 2017-06-13 06:39
Wew lad, so buttblasted.
125 Name: Anonymous 2017-06-26 17:29
borders locked up tighter than a nun's ass, but talks endless shit about how xenophobic Americans are
had the most batshit insane leader in the western world for 9 years but won't shut up about Trump
literally no culture of it's own
universal healthcare yet citizens still would rather go to mexico to get treated
obesity epidemic at an astronomical rate but doesn't hesitate to call America "the fat nation"
every wrestler from there plays a giant dickbag heel and it's the most believable thing ever
puts ketchup on steak and gravy on chips

what da fuq is Canada's damage, yo?
126 Name: Anonymous 2017-06-28 00:53
borders locked up tighter than a nun's ass
Only for other whites (like Ukrainian refugees), everyone else that is non-white is welcome to come on in! Trudeau is working for white genocide in Canada.

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