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Is jazz music inherently low IQ?

3 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-20 20:30
>>1
It is the last refuge of the untalented musician. The people playing jazz music enjoy themselves far more than anyone listening to it.
4 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-20 23:17
>>1
he lack of form and structure
that may be the case with your OP, but there is a lot of structured jazz. not all jazz is free jazz or bebop and only because you only know miles davis and john coltrane doesn't mean all jazz is like that.
I can understand if you say that you can't listen to coleman, it really depends on how used you are to the strutctures of the genre and it does certainly require some understanding in the theory and what to listen for.

so if anything you need to educate yourself to understand or let's say appreciate it more. that makes it kinda high IQ
5 Name: tokiko 2020-08-21 02:04
>>3
You seem stupid to me.
6 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-21 04:51
>>1
Imagine going through life as an idiot. Holy fuck
7 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-21 07:38
>>2
Complete bullshit.
8 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-21 10:26
9 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-21 13:13
>>1
Jews pioneered Jazz.
Not niggers.
10 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-21 16:00
>>1
Deconstruct Bitches Brew in its entirety right now if is so "low iq"
I'll be specting a full transcription, including dynamic changes and performance notes.
11 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-21 18:46
>>10
Bitches Brew
I see, you're a man of culture as well
12 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-21 21:33
>>1
Does it matter if it's low IQ? Some people enjoy different forms of music. Some people even enjoy shitty music that they also know is shitty because people just enjoy different things. Lastly to judge music based off of it's "IQ" and not by numerous other factors is a low IQ thing to do.
13 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-22 00:20
>>1
It doesn't take extraordinary intelligence to be an extraordinary musician, so musical prowess isn't a very reliable indicator of IQ.

That said, it takes a pretty advanced knowledge of music to be a great Jazz musician. Miles Davis, John Coltrane and the rest of the giants knew their theory. Were they as gifted and erudite as the giants of classical music? My first instinct is to say no, but Jazz is very different and therefore requires a different set of skills.
14 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-22 03:07
>>7
Found the nigger
15 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-22 05:54
>>1
Come back after you can explain what Adam Neely is talking about here.
https://youtu.be/OFWCbGzxofU
16 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-22 08:41
>>1
The difference between jazz and classical is rhythm. Jazz is classical with rhythm. The fact that you can't decipher its form is your problem.
17 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-22 11:28
>>1
I'd say that the lack of form and structure compared to classical music would it make it so
Yeah, but we know what kind of butthurt shit you are, so...opinion disqualified, I guess.
18 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-22 14:15
>>1
/newpol/ /newpol/ /newpol/ the board for faaagots!
19 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-22 17:02
20 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-22 19:49
>>8
based herbie hancock poster
21 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-23 01:22
>>1
Why does everything have to be a competition between races with you /newpol/fucks?

I think I know why. I think it's because you haven't (and probably never will) accomplish anything remotely substantial in your sad excuse for a life, and so you try to find validation in the accomplishments of the race you happen to belong to.
22 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-23 06:56
Is jazz music inherently low IQ?
Not in the slightest.
I'd say that the lack of form and structure compared to classical music would it make it so
You're talking about a form of music which, from it's own inception, was highly experimental.
but how come black people never play instruments anymore if they pioneered that shit?
Because all you need is a computer to make music now, therefor musicianship is more accessible to more people. Why spend thousands of hours mastering one class off instrument when you can compose with all instruments including synthesized sound.
Maybe jazz just isn't your thing OP. I personally do not like most country music, but I don't discredit the genre as being bad because I don't like it, I just find that I lack appreciation for it because of my musical taste.
23 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-23 12:30
>>7
a form of music that was started by black people playing European instruments is not interracial
24 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-23 18:03
>>21
It's quarantine time, we're bored
25 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-23 23:37
>>23
Nigger, if I make a Noise album using a violin, it doesn't mean I collaborated with some Italian dude who lived in the middle ages.
26 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-24 05:10
>>25
the black people playing the instruments just picked them up one day and automatically knew how to play them
Are you really so retarded that you don't think someone white didn't teach them?
27 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-24 10:44
>>26
Are you really so retarded that you don't think someone white didn't teach them?
I'm not the person who said white people had nothing to do with the development of Jazz. I just wanted to point out how retarded your post about the instruments was.
28 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-24 16:18
>>26
Bullshit.....thousands of hours of practice....You don't get as good on bass as someone like Vic Wooten, Jeff Berlin, Jaco Pastorius or Marcus Miller without some serious time in your youth learning how to play...
29 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-24 21:51
>>26
damn anon going HARD trying to be racist and stupid here.

Jazz is definitely an interracial affair, thanks to people like Stan Getz, the Latin American/Afro Cuban influences on jazz, and of course the Jewish and Roma influences from people like Django Reinhardt, but to pretend it isn't all at the end of the day derived from African folk music is to know nothing about music. Jazz is a Black art form and runs the gamut of hyper intellectual structuralism like Anthony Braxton's compositions to freewheeling psycho improv like The Art Ensemble of Chicago. Fuck off.
30 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-25 03:25
>>27
Well, you failed.
>>28
learning how to play
That's the point. They had to be taught. Go back far enough, and the only people who knew how to play those instruments were the people who created them.
>>29
You are going way out of your way to make yourself look retarded. I never denied the influence of African folk music, or any other influence. I was AGREEING with the interracial aspects. Go be a moron somewhere else.
31 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-25 08:59
>>30
You're being an idiot trying to say that white people taught them their instruments, when many were self-taught and trained by other jazz musicians.
32 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-25 14:32
>>29
jazz is an interracial collaboration
I agree
DAS RASIST
Fucking 4ct.
33 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-25 20:06
>>32
can you believe that newfag is now 5 times older than coolfag was at the time newfag appeared? time flies when you're a faggot!
34 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-26 01:40
>>31
And I suppose you think they just ground-scored their instruments, too. In a time when blacks for economically kept down, they just happened to get their hands on what expensive instruments. This isn't like in the cartoons where they throw a few things together and have a fully functioning brass band.
They gained their knowledge initially because whites taught them to play so that they could be their entertainment. They took that knowledge, as well as retained cultural influences, and used them to create something new. Of course some people can be self-taught, but it still requires access to the instruments, which they wouldn't have had if some white people didn't want them to perform for them.
35 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-26 07:14
>>34
So you're telling me the slaves that congregated at Congo Square were playing instruments they were just handed by whites? Really and truly? THAT'S what happened? Come on.
36 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-26 12:47
>>1Lack of form and structure? In jazz?
That was the dumbest thing I've read all week. Fucking /newpol/ is retarded man
37 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-26 18:21
>>33
time flies when you're a faggot
Clearly.
38 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-26 23:55
>>35
literally no time occurred between slavery and jazz
That's some advanced autism you got there.
39 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-27 05:28
>>2
Wow. This is the stupidest thing I've read all day. Good work!
40 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-27 11:02
>>1
lol thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Jazz musicians study the classics as well. They have to to know how to break down the forms. I don't even have time to begin how much more difficult jazz is compared to "classical" music.
41 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-27 16:35
>>38
Jazz started in Congo Square, dipshit. They literally congregated with their own handmade instruments and were playing what would eventually become called jazz. Learn some history.
42 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-27 22:09
>>1
Nothing wrong with jazz. It's far, far, *FAR* removed from the crap being spewed by nigs these days, which is utterly devoid of artistic merit.

Jazz, though? Jazz has always been good shit. And there have been excellent white and black jazz artists, without a doubt. When someone thinks jazz, their first two picks are Dave Brubeck and Miles Davis.
43 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-28 03:42
>>1
Black people never play instruments?
Do you live under a rock?
44 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-28 09:21
>>1
Jazz is fucking difficult. You try holding the beat in all that cacophony. You know what's utterly simple to play? White pop music.

(HINT: That's why they don't teach Jazz to 3rd graders.)
45 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-28 14:55
>>9
Yes newpol its the jews.
46 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-28 20:28
>>42
when someone thinks jazz, their first two picks are Dave Brubeck
do we have to have a talk about how what you think and feel isn't what everyone else thinks and feels again, anon?
47 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-29 02:02
>>42
Jazz has always been good shit
In the beginning, it was considered on the same level you consider "nigger music" these days. It wasn't regarded as highly as it is today, and at best would have been called "pop" by the academics
48 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-29 07:36
>>44
You know what's utterly simple to play? White pop music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0
49 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-29 13:09
>>47
it was considered nigger music in the us, but in europe it's been highly praised from the start.
50 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-30 03:03
>>41
they were able to create their own pianos and trumpets without any prior knowledge
also, whites never thought to use musically-inclined blacks for their own amusement
You keep getting dumber and dumber. I guess jazz really is low IQ.
51 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-30 16:57
>>1
Your an obvious fucking idiot
52 Name: Anonymous 2020-08-30 22:32
>>51
Your an obvious
seething lefty

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