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Do you guys think the coronavirus is real or not?

3 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 01:38
>>2
Same here, i dont know anyone who has it because my country is pretty safe on the situation and I also think the deaths are exxaturated because my friend knows a guy who died of cancer and they said he died of corona
4 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 02:28
>>3
Consider your self lucky despite the name the united states is united on literally nothing its like we are a bunch of retarded countries stapled together
5 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 03:36
>>1
https://i.imgur.com/Hfxhwga.png
The virus is real but it is not lethal at all. It is only dangerous for old people with/or comorbidities.

The chaos they are making is part of the Leftist Agenda
6 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 03:54
>>2
Still on that myth huh?
Lemme guess, you think pneumonias a disease?
7 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 04:28
>>4
I do consider myself lucky because I don't live in america, I live in Serbia, I'd rather die than be an amerimutt

>>5
I agree, but I've heard from someone the virus has evolved and now does more damage to kids and youth
8 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 05:01
>>5
This. They say it can have long lasting effects too but I don't really see how there's evidence of that because not enough time has passed for the data.
9 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 05:35
>>5
People dying isn't really the problem its the people going without jobs and being unable to pay rent making them homeless and hurting the economy as a whole. I cant possible wrap my head around why people wouldn't just wear cloth on their face holy shit. Not only that but hospitals are stuffed full so people with other health problems can't get the treatment they need. Small businesses are going under while huge corporations that commit tax evasion get payoffs from the government. All because boomers won't wear masks and can't think two steps ahead of themselves
10 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 06:08
>>8
i know five people who h ave had it and they were fine after a week. They were older too so i dont see how this is true. All i have seen are news articles nothing really scientific
11 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 06:43
>>7
but I've heard from someone....
The most depressing phrase on the internet. All the world’s knowledge a few clicks away and you unquestioningly shape your beliefs on what “someone” said. And then you come to 4ct, home of trolls, liars and fake news to ask if something is real or not.
12 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 07:20
>>11
Shit on the internet is very often fake. You can't ask a question like this on any other site because they'll call you retarded, delete your post and shadowban you like tinychan does.
13 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 07:53
>>8
They say it can have long lasting effects too but I don't really see how there's evidence of that because not enough time has passed for the data.
The pandemic started when? And if we have people who caught it early on are still suffering debilitating symptoms (called Long Covid) this shows it’s not like flu. How long would you like?
14 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 08:27
>>9
People not wearing masks is not the reason they dragged it out this long. Also hospitals are definitely not crowded. If anything they're struggling to get by from everyone being too scared to go in for a check up
15 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 09:00
>>12
This. The leftists who want to ban and censor everyone have no idea how much they push people to sites like this.
16 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 09:34
>>1
Coronavirus is real. The pandemic was real as it fit the definition. But the ultimate result is a fizzle and will be a blip in history, only marking the map for its initial explosion, the mass hysteria, assumptions, poor models and predictions, over-reaction and strong-arm tactics by both government and social media.
17 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 10:07
>>7
more danger to kids and youth

Bullshit. Children and adolescents have a very strong immune system
18 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 10:41
i am a critical care doctor in texas. i have seen ~300 critically ill cases of covid since this all started and about 2/3 of them died. the majority of them were old, fat, and diabetic. most of those who survived are now old, fat, diabetic, and fucked up. they would all be alive right now if they didn't catch covid. they DIED OF COVID.

covid deniers and republicans/trumpers are idiots but they have a point about looking at the big picture. how much economic ruin is worth preventing a lot of old fat diabetics (and a small number of young healthies from dying?
19 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 11:15
>>18
but they would also die from the normal flu no ?
20 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 11:48
>>18
I'd wager that more people will die of malnutrition/lack of healthcare/suicide than covid
21 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 12:22
>>12
Shit on the internet is very often fake
True. Which is why you need to look at multiple sources, compare data sources and investigate the source to see if they are known for bias. It takes time and effort - don’t just hit “I feel lucky” on Google. If you think the internet may be full of fake info, do you really think this shithole part of it would be better?
22 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 12:55
>>15
You’re either the victim of echo chamber mentality of getting your information from biased sources
23 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 13:29
>>18
considering the majority of America is obese, and obesity is a risk factor with COVID, I’d say all the fat fucks on 4ct should be fucking concerned
24 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 14:02
>>21
Good point, and I agree, but if people could censor the coronavirus in the real world, they could also probably censor it on google and other social media.
25 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 14:36
>>18
old, fat, diabetic, etc
As a Doctor, you should know that when a patient has multiple comorbidities, a single agent cannot be considered a cause of death.

A healthy young person is more likely to survive than one with comorbidities. So much so that the places with the most deaths correspond to their age group of elderly
26 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 15:10
>>22
Have you ever had social media? if you made a post like half the shit on this site you wouldnt be allowed to post and would probably get banned. i know for a fact that facebook would label this post as misinfo
27 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 15:43
you can tell the smooth brains who quote the COVID death totals and start saying “well, not so bad, and muh freedumbz to eat at Denny’s dun been infringed”
look, Cletus, deaths aren’t the only issue here; it’s also morbidity (go ahead and good that, I’ll wait); when you miss 2 weeks-2 months of work because you’re sicker than you’ve ever been, shitting around the clock, can’t roll over in bed because it takes too much energy to do so, can’t eat, can’t breathe, lips turning a dusky color, wishing you were dead so this misery could all end, THEN you start to see the true cost of the disease...it’s not dead old people in nursing homes; it’s deathly sick young workers who can’t fucking feed their family because of illness
28 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 16:17
>>27
well unfortunately we cant feed ourselves when we have to close our businesses either so we are kinda fucked either way
29 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 16:50
>>24
if people could censor the coronavirus in the real world
How can people censor the virus in the real world? There are far too many independent sources reporting and analysing data. I agree that there are many charlatans like the mob in the white coats a few weeks ago claiming they had a cure who claim expertise, but many academic institutions and government agencies are sworn to independent and neutral reporting - much to the chagrin of many politicians.
30 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 17:24
>>26
This is exactly why I don’t have either Farcebook or Twatter and mostly don’t do social media. I will occasionally debunk stuff if it gets reported elsewhere and people I know start believing it
31 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 18:32
>>25
not the guy above, but also doctor:
obviously these are multifactorial deaths, and death certificates reflect that; they never (or should never) say “died of COVID; they say “death from cardiovascular/respiratory failure/multiorgan failure, etc”; more importantly, these are NEW deaths, ie as compared to any other year; its a disingenuous argument to say “well, they would have died anyway” because you look at the rate of death from (pick whichever cause of death you want) and we have >190k MORE deaths in top of that
32 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 19:40
>>29
Well, that's good info, but I'm too lazy to ravage the internet in search of an answer, it's more fun to hear different opinions from different people, and I don't have to spend much time doing it either, i can just refresh once in a while and read what you guys said. Also >>26
33 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 20:47
>>28
so you run a bar, get into a better line of work
34 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 21:54
>>1
Unbiased fact: it's real

However it's lethality varies from person to person and it has many conspiracy theories behind it, some conspiracy theories are completely wrong, however most of them have evidence to back them up.

Also as for the lethality varying it's like a dice roll, you're gambling if you're gonna live normally or have life lasting scars if you survive, and gambling is a dumb idea so wear your damn mask and get some gloves it's not hard.
35 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-14 23:34
>>30
And it is good by you not to have one. As much as people are complete shit heads on this board at least you can say pretty much anything expect for kiddie pron (even thought there are still pedos that come on here )
36 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 00:41
anon how do you think it would be possible to somehow trick billions of people on this earth into believing something that doesn't exist?
37 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2020-09-15 01:48
>>36
its a lot easier than you think
38 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 02:55
>>36
i dont know my guy im just asking for opinions and discussion
39 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 04:02
>>32
but I'm too lazy to ravage the internet in search of an answer
Then you are going to be forever ignorant and at the mercy of snake-oil salesmen.

it's more fun to hear different opinions from different people, and I don't have to spend much time doing it either,
Fine, as long as you don’t base any decisions on what you hear or read. But be careful - there are some people who have gone down the QAnon rabbit hole and lost all grip on reality
40 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 05:26
>>7
I’m across the border in Bulgaria. We also don’t have much - closed down early. I don’t think the virus is evolving but more young people are getting it because it’s summer and they’re partying etc.

Whatever the details, it was smart to close down at the beginning because we had no idea what this was. But now we’re killing our economies because no-one has the balls to say ‘old people are gonna die, sorry’
41 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 06:00
>>39
well, for the first point, i mostly ravage the internet for shit when I can't find something, but even if I find thousands of articles saying it's fake, im still gonna wear a mask almost everywhere i go for safety. I was merely interested in what you guys think. Also, for the second point I don't actually look for advice on important decisions on here, I either thino about them myself or looo in safer sources.
42 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 07:07
>>1
I was in a hospital in Harris cou ty Texas, a place the mews calls a hot spot. The place was empty. I asked a doctor if he had a lot of corona cases. He said he hadn't seen one case but he is sure someone has.... you want to know why the Amish arent having a problem with corona? Its because they dont watch TV
43 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 08:30
>>34
Important disclaimer : yes most conspiracy theories have evidence but that doesn't mean they are right, there are conflicting evidence, and evidence that are not entirely true, some misinterpreted evidence, and ofcourse, china spreading misinformation.
44 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 09:54
ill probably die from it eventually, because of faggots that dont believe and mouth breathers who literally cough in your face
i would miss my family if i still existed but most likely ill be nothing when i die
i just hope my friend doesnt come knocking on my mums door like some kind of blood thirsty phyco looking to either sell my possetions or just keep it all for himself
which i have no dought he would because hes an entitled faggot living off government gibbs
i wouldnt mind if he got bored of trying to become a success and just killed himself
but he never will because hes a giant pussy
45 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 11:17
How can you have existed on the planet during the greatest pandemic in a century THAT COULD KILL YOU AND EVERYONE YOU LOVE and not educate yourself?
46 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 12:42
>>9
Hospitals are emptier than they've ever been in recorded history.

>>8
Just like the holocaust. The people who want you do obey them come up with anything scary they can think of to make you do as your told.
Remember when they were saying it sterilized you?

>>14
People not wearing masks is not the reason they dragged it out this long.
You're an idiot. They've shifted from "flattening the curve", to "New normal".
The entire point of movement restrictions and masks was to slow the spread to not overwhelm hospitals. We even went too far with it and ended up making hospitals ghost towns, as you know.
When you look at area under the curve the "flattened" curve has more getting infected than the spike ever does. It wasn't about saving lives. It wasn't about eradicating the virus, we were never meant to wear masks until the virus is made extinct. That's never going to happen. It has shifted to the new normal as a social credit system.
You do wear your mask right?
You're not antiscience right?
47 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 13:32
>>1
Its real you dumb fucking posting newfag retard.
Good job for not watching the news tho, next step is gtfo whatever hick shithole youre living in asap
Ive been in 30+ states since it started and the only place people told me it isnt real is the midwest.
48 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 14:40
>>46
What ass are you pulling this shit from?
49 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 15:30
>>1
I think it’s real. My friend’s mom died of it, and I know a few others that caught it. Personally, I think it’s completely overblown. I know there a lot of aspects that make the virus ‘scary’ because we have had little insight into what it does, but after May and June, I just thought that it was ridiculous that countries were shit down and businesses were closed. We understood enough of the virus to know it wasn’t going to wipe out large percentages of the population. The only people at risk are, surprise, the boomers who are, surprise, running the show. It’s not hard to put two and two together. I feel like the younger generations and healthy adults should just be able to go about their lives. And all the people saying that they love grandma and grandpa, well fuck you. I don’t care if they die. Of course I would be upset to see older relatives pass, but that’s life and I’m sure they even understand that. We can’t not live our lives because of a virus that is non lethal to 99.8% of the population. I believe in survival of the fittest. Stay fat and obese and you die. I’ve gained weight because of this stupid shit because I haven’t been able to go to my local gym for months. How is that a good idea!? Yeah, let’s just keep the population fat, at home watching Netflix and on zoom calls and leave all the liquor stores and dispensaries open, but close ALL GYMS AND PARKS. I’m a pot head alcoholic too and even I think it’s fucking ridiculous. They just want to fatten us up and keep us numb. Fuck that. Rise.
50 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 16:55
>>5

https://i.imgur.com/t9J5hDc.jpg

200k deaths isn't nothing
51 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 18:18
>>50
Never forget 80% were going to die within the year.
Never forget only 6% of deaths were "healthy".
Never forget 90% never show symptoms.
Never forget 25% of deaths were fraudulently recorded for political and funding purposes.
Never forget makeshift face coverings aersolize macro droplets and are more dangerous than just being a normal person
Never forget masks aren't a substitute for distance
Never forget a masks transmission effectiveness over no mask at a distance of over 6' drops to near 0.

Face the facts. It's a scam. No one wants to get sick, but you don't shut down the world in a 16th century larp.
52 Name: Anonymous 2020-09-15 20:33
I had it for a few months. Wasn't hospitalised but nearly rang an ambulance a few times it got that bad. Had a syndrome called 'post covid19 fallout' for a few months after too. Was perpetually fucking exhausted and in pain allover as clots had formed. After all that though, I would like to see people get back to normal, as the after effects such as people losing their jobs etc will be far and away worse than the virus. I also think it was done 'accidentally on purpose' by the CCP - they are not to be trusted in the slightest.

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