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It's over, Trumptards.

951 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-25 20:48
When did you realize that Trump is the best President the US ever had? I did in 2015 so I voted for him and I will do it again 2020.
952 Name: [email protected] 2019-01-25 20:54
Trump had to reopen the government without getting the $5 billion he shut it down for a month over. Checkmate Democrats
953 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-25 21:07
>>952
shove it faggot. you have no idea how negotiations work.it's not like trump WANTED the government shut down. He wanted to make it CLEAR he was CAPABLE of doing that to send a message to the libs to stop being stubborn little bitches. tthis is the first act in a much larger play he already has planned out. this is a surrender the same way MacArthur's temporary withdraw from the Phillipines was. You think you've got this all sorted out, there wont be a wall, the mexicans will be able to just keep running across the border and rigging votes in 2020? youre sorely mistaken. shit is about to get real.
954 Name: [email protected] 2019-01-26 01:38
turns down 25 billion
turns down 11 billion
can't get 5 billion
gets 0 billion

what's this negotiation tactic called?
955 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 07:45
>>954
Can now have SOU and shit on democats.
Will get wall money with national emergency.
How retarded are you?
956 Name: [email protected] 2019-01-26 10:48
All in all he's just a prick with no wall.
957 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 11:05
>>955
Then a Democratic President is elected declares that gun violence is a national emergency causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans. Begins confiscating guns because Trump set the precedent.....
958 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 11:22
>>955
I really hope he does try it.
National emergency for the wall will never stand up to the house court challenge. But it will open the door for the next Dem president.

>>957
I think it more likely they'll declare the emergency to be climate change. Something that can stand up in the courts.
959 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 11:39
>>954
He could easily have had his 5.6bn. But he never offered anything of value in exchange. His immigration reforms were jokes, in the long term being a gift to Steven Miller.
960 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 11:45
>>958
True climate change is far more likely to be targeted. As you said though if Trump tries it'll be short down by the courts.
961 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 11:55
>>954
Enjoy your little pyrrhic victory, libtards, but know this; the American people won't forget how you used the wages of federal workers as a bargaining chip to ensure drug smugglers and rapist can still cross our borders unmolested.

You will know why you fear the night.
962 Name: [email protected] 2019-01-26 12:03
>>961
Trump was the one who said he would "gladly shut down the government" and that he wouldn't blame Democrats.
Trump already took the blame for it so to rephrase your statement;

Enjoy your little pyrrhic victory, libtards, but know this; the American people won't forget how *Trump* used the wages of federal workers as a bargaining chip to ensure his half ass promise of a useless wall.

You will know why you fear the night.
963 Name: [email protected] 2019-01-26 12:13
>>961
ensure drug smugglers and rapist can still cross our borders
i personally advocate the drug smugglers i like my drugs being cheaper and more readily available. as for rapists pretty sure they are everywhere human beings are garbage and American citizens rape and kill people every damn day
964 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 12:32
>>962
Trump was the one who said he would "gladly shut down the government" and that he wouldn't blame Democrats.
Trump already took the blame for it
Hello, paid Soros shill,
965 Name: [email protected] 2019-01-26 12:40
>>964
if you heard about the outside world from anywhere besides 4ct you would remember trump claiming he would take responsibility for the shutdown you moron
966 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 12:54
>>954

I really don't get why this is being played like a failure. Neither side expected things to go this far, so they've agreed to actually get things working for a couple weeks while they figure it out further. I imagine both trump and Senators/Reps were seeing people they knew and were close to suffering from lack of pay, and important (though not "critical") projects being pushed back, harming the public interest.

So they both agree to a truce to keep the wheels turning while they figure things out a bit longer.
Ideally, this would have been the solution INSTEAD of the shutdown. It's a far better solution to keep government operating while details of the overall budget are being negotiated.
967 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 13:01
>>966
It's a failure because the dems won't give Trump shit and everyone knows it. To think they are going to change from 100% obstruction now is just absurd. He caved and the only way he'll get the wall is by forcing it, which he will get murdered for by the media. He's going to lose a bit of support from moderates here.

He tried to strong arm the negotiation. The dems waited it out, partying on islands and spending taxpayer money.
968 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 13:27
>>967
At this point, if they dont have a solution in 3 weeks, we're looking at another shutdown. However, in the meantime, those employees got their backpay and their normal pay so it helps them ready to survive another round. It's also something that will help push the Democrats along as they'll might get the blame for the next shutdown.
The negotiations are ongoing. Till there's a permanent solution there's no victories nor failures.
969 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 13:38
>>968
It's also something that will help push the Democrats along as they'll might get the blame for the next shutdown.

You don't really believe that, do you? Trump will get blamed no matter what.

The repubs tried getting the workers paid, twice. The dems wouldn't sign. How widely was that news spread?

The dems control the narrative and they have much more power and influence, especially since so many repubs are on their side. Regardless if this is an actual win/loss, the optics are it's a major loss for Trump. That will only encourage the dems to say fuck you to him even more. Why? Because they can get away with it no matter what.
970 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 13:51
I'm going to posit that all the trolls in the thread have changed tactics from

"attempt to convince people"

to

"sage bullshit until the problem goes away"

They're not interested in a discussion, they're interested in drowning everyone else out, so people who disagree with them feel isolated in their views.

If we accept this hypothesis, my question is then: what is the correct collective response here?
971 Name: [email protected] 2019-01-26 14:08
TRUMP PEE TAPE LEAKED

https://m.imgur.com/3ev69oB
972 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 14:12
>>970
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the new "Sure kid" thing at this point. I'm aware he's just trolling to try to sage the thread away, but I legitimately have to wonder if his mother did meth while she was pregnant with him.
973 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 14:14
>>971
That proves nothing since you don't see shit. Much more likely its fake to ruin him then it being real.
974 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 14:22
Whether THIS tape is real or not are any of you really that surprised? There's irrefutable proof he's paid numerous whores tons of hush money already. And at this point you know his wife who's really just a russian spy doesn't feel a fucking thing for him, she even slaps his hand away when he tries to grab hers.

This is coming from a republican btw. I miss the days when people took things like marriage seriously, regardless of your religious/irreligious beliefs you have to admit all these single baby mamas are just sowing the seeds for raising a country filled with broken men.
975 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 14:25
>>971
No I see one, maybe two women on a bed and a fat blond dude on a chair. Nothing pointing to it actually being Trump.
976 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 14:32
Lets say the video exists. Why release it. Why would anyone give up their leverage.

Anyone has been able to rent that room over the last 2 years Im surprised this is only the first person to try to fake a video.
977 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 14:42
>>976
lol stone just got indicted, which next to don jr is a sign that the sco is largely finishing up

and trump just caved

so drop the tape between when it's clear that they're going after trump and before he has any real checks on his power

this is pretty much when you *would* do it if you cared less about blackmail at this point and more about just destabilization
978 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 14:45
>>977
Interesting. Russia just wants to destabilize America, and right now, a battle for power between GOP establishment (pence) and trump would do it, in addition to Pelosi
979 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 14:53
>>971
fuck your fake shit
Bill and Hillary raped kids
FAA flight logs (public record) prove they flew in a child brothel plane 22 times, separately and together

Democrats do not care
980 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:01
>>977
Did you read the indictment? It just process crap the same shit they got Flynn for. Its the tactic a prosecutor uses when they dont have the facts to prove the original case.

I still dont see the benefit of giving up leverage when Trump still has influence.
981 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:09
>>977
Its so shitty only morons will fall for it, there is no point in puttning out such a shitty fake at this moment, would have made sense shortly after the fake Steel docier was released
982 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:13
>>981
Anyone who doesn't know how to spell "Steele Dossier" by this point clearly is an idiot, and anything the say should be completely disregarded without any thought given.
983 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:31
>>982
just remember trump is the most honest most transparent president in recent history
984 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:44
>>971
Whoever this is in the white shirt has a chest significantly smaller than Trump's, a belly significantly larger and shoulders nowhere near as broad.
985 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:47
Well, even if it is or it isn't Trump with the pee pee thing can we all just agree that Trump in fact is a Draft Dodger?
Let's be honest here.
986 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:49
>>985
Can you believe he didn't go firebomb a bunch of peasant rice farmers. What a monster.
987 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:52
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-healthcare/new-york-city-launches-100-million-universal-health-insurance-program-idUSKCN1P21WF

And then declare a state of emergency so the democrats can hate Trump while they openly contradict public statements they made a few years ago, which to moderate Independents like me looks real fucking honest and beneficial. What is the point of having citizenship in America anymore at fucking all? To be the fucking sucker forced to pay for everything?
988 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 15:57
i can't find anyone else confirming this, and the video is pretty grainy for clear cut proof. if maybe there was audio too.
989 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:02
>>968
"I'll gladly shut down the government, I wont blame you (Democrats) for it"
Its literally all of trumps fault, he literally admitted blame for it before it happened he words came out of his mouth that stated he was willingly going to shut the government down.
990 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:07
>>971
So you're saying that in 2016 there couldn't be any better camera quality for something/someone that important? There are 'Cryptid Caught On Camera Real! ' videos more discernible than that.

I know it's a weekend and you don't have class tomorrow, but maybe ask you're photography class instructor what the effects on structure in minimized lighting have in conjunction with pre-establishment?
991 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:12
>>990
this is russia, the poor as shit country.

furthermore, just cause the video was reported in 2016, doesnt mean it was made in 2016. my guess is the video was made during trump russian beauty pageant
992 Name: SuperFratBoyExtreme 2019-01-26 16:15
I can believe this many retards exist.
993 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:19
>>991
Just because Russia is "poor" doesn't mean it's governmental forces are deprived of good equipment. If a national populace's wealth was indicative of it's government's wealth, Kim Jong-un wouldn't wear bespoke suits, and China wouldn't have Nukes.

As for when it was supposedly made, you don't think it's suspicious that CNN and MSNBC had a former British espionage agent,who's expertise was High Class Defamation, on pay at the precise time this tape was 'discovered'?
994 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:22
So is this the video or not?
995 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:25
>>994
It is if you're a gullible troglodyte incapable of counter intuitive thought.
996 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:28
Im just waiting for the next dem to add a tax for not having a car. Its my right to have a car
997 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:33
Meet the press tomorrow is going to be so much fun. I know still early so CNN is not talking about it yet... I am going to be watching all day!
998 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 16:38
>>995
so, what you are saying is that we are all able to have intuitive thought since you say we are not capable of non intuitive thought.... you're so kind Anon!
999 Name: [email protected] 2019-01-26 16:41
download the video, everyone - the original streamable source I took it from has 404'd. Don't let it disappear
1000 Name: Anonymous 2019-01-26 17:07
>>971
That’s him alright, he wears his own brand of tacky shirts that are wide at the belly and narrow at his chest. Same dumb hand gestures. And he’s not calling anyone, he’s recording the thing on his phone telling one girl to per on the other. The girls look to be skinny Russian blondes, his type as we know from the “if I wasn’t ivankas dad I’d be fucking her” comment.

but he’s a germophobe

Yeah, nothing says germophobe like admitting to raw dogging a porn star/hooker.

Conservatives still aren’t gonna care though.

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