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SATA drive recovery.

1 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 07:03
My SATA drive I am trying to recover data from is showing up as 0 bytes. In Disk management it said I needed to initialize it, but it wouldnt let me do that, claiming there was some kind of fatal hardware error. Do you think the read head is stuck? is it just completely hosed?
2 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 07:07
>>1
Damn bro, I think its dead
3 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 07:14
>>1
Way to persevere though, 4-5 days now that you're going at it?
4 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 07:26
>>1
if windows, look in diskpart
Open cmd as admin
type diskpart
type list disk
sel disk 1
clean
it should clear the error
5 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 07:32
>>3
its been a few days off and on i dont remember how many.

before with my other SATA cord it didnt even show up in disk management, so the new cord at least got it to show up. But it said I needed to initialize it, I cant browse it or see it in the MY PC tab or anything like that.

I eventually tried to initialize it, unsure if it would let me use the drive, or if it would just wipe it, but luckilly or unluckilly, nothing happened because of the error. So I am not sure if the read head is fucked or what.

>>4
sounds like you are trying to get me to wipe my drive bro
6 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 07:35
>>5
Not same guy, but in theory even if you format a drive (assuming it doesn't overwrite data/you don't do zero passes) you should be able to format it back to whatever kind of FS the drive is in currently and run whatever disk recovery program you need to
7 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 07:43
>>5
i'm not trying to wipe your whole drive, the diskpart clean cmd just removes the partition allocation info, it doesn't actually wipe the drive.
As long you're recovering the data with any program worth its salt you should be able to get the data regardless.
also when in diskpart do the following cmds before you plug the drive in
automount disable
automount scrub

it disables the automounting of new volumes in windows and can be useful if the drive fails to mount and causes the system to lock up or tools to fail.
8 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 08:46
>>5
>>7
forgot source and proof
I work for drivesavers look us up
9 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 09:02
>>6
>>7
i am probably just going to use recuva and half ass it

>>7
Im not sure if this is relevant data, but in my BIOS the drive was detected and was listed in a boot option area. IDK if that is a good sign or not. I tried to boot from it out of sheer curiosity, but it failed.

right now im watching this vdieo and it seems like you two have similar first steps, im not sure if this is the same task or general thing you are trying to help me accomplish or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmchiJKQr-w
10 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 09:26
>>9
i should add though, that I tried to run recvua earlier and it doesnt even see the drive anywhere, so unless i can do something to this drive that allows recuva to recognize it, idk what my options are.

If it is seen in disk management as a 0 kb but still shows up, i really do not know if that is a good or bad sign. recuva doesnt see it and im not sure if there is anything i can do in this position to change it.
11 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 09:43
>>9
Do not Format the drive EVER when recovering data, that video is for drives not mounting that are blank not for drives with data.
Recuva if fine but i'd recommend file scavenger if you just want to grab individual files and not a whole disk.
12 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 11:05
>>11
OP here i am really confused, because this old ass SATA drive is from 2008 and wont read, but I used to have a drive from like 2004 which was IDE that i could just plug and play and read off of externally as if it was a thummb drive. even though its windows OS was hosed.
13 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 11:35
>>12
All drives could fail at any time. The date doesn't mean anything, just that the older it gets, the more chance it has of failing. I have a 2010 SATA WD Blue in an enclosure on my desk that although occasionally makes odd noises, it's still kicking.
14 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 13:11
>>12
SATA should plug and play with the right usb adapter, if you're trying to use the drive on the SATA bus that might be your problem. Anon follow these steps
Unplug the drive if its currently plugged in
Open and Administrative CMD (not powershell)
enter diskpart
type
automount disable
automount scrub
close the CMD line
plug in the drive
wait 30 seconds
open and admin CMD again
type
diskpart
list disk

once you do that reply with a screenshot of what's on your screen.
15 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 13:23
>>14
SATA should plug and play with the right usb adapter, if you're trying to use the drive on the SATA bus that might be your problem

im not sure what you mean by sata bus, im using this, and its hooked onto the SATA drive. The SATA drive was from an old laptop i grew up with years back, that I removed from a laptop that didnt seem to be working anymore.

Im not sure what you mean by sata bus so i just am trying to explain my situation to you.

i will get back to you in a bit and will try to follow that
16 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 13:33
>>14
type
automount disable
automount scrub
what does this do?
17 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 13:35
>>14
you don't need to type "type"
just
automount disable
automount scrub

these cmds prevent new volumes from being mounted automatically and clear drive letter assignments, if a drive is having issues not initializing correctly or locking the system up when you try to seek it disabling these while help you run the tools needed for recovery
18 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 20:32
>>15
What I mean by sata bus iS if you are plugging it into a sata port on your motherboard not through usb, you are using a usb adapter though that's good.
19 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 22:54
>>15
you don't need to type "type"
just
automount disable
automount scrub

these cmds prevent new volumes from being mounted automatically and clear drive letter assignments, if a drive is having issues not initializing correctly or locking the system up when you try to seek it disabling these while help you run the tools needed for recovery
20 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-04 23:39
>>19
it clears unmounted drive letter assignments* your C: drive will still keep its letter.
21 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 00:25
>>19
how to i undo the automount scrub command later to revert whatever that is/does? im following all of this i just dont want to screw up something i dont understand.
22 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 00:40
>>21
the reverse of the cmd so instead of automount disable
automount enable
23 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 00:59
>>21
scrub doesn't need to be reversed. it just clears the current drive letter assignment list.
24 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 01:44
Not OP here, does is matter whether to get an SSD or HDD external hardrive? If speed doesnt matter, is HDD more reliable?
25 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 02:11
>>23
>>19
i may repeat the steps just to make sure i didnt accidentally mess a step up. this is what ive got. Are you sure that the first step is supposed to be disabled and not enabled?
26 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 02:49
>>24
SSD better by far, less chances of data loss from dropping the drive or even just moving it around a little to harsly
27 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 03:00
>>24
Are you asking external SSD vs external HDD? Or were you thinking like M.2?
28 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 03:26
>>1
What...uhhhh... filesystem format is/was it
29 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 04:30
>>25
yes disable, if it was enable windows would try and assign a fucked up volume a letter which can cause issues and lock your system up
so next steps
enter the follow cmds
sel disk 1
list par
30 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 04:34
>>26
thank you anon

>>27
I don't know what a M.2 is but it sounds interesting. I am researching it now. And yea I meant external SSD vs external HDD
31 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 04:37
>>29
so next steps
enter the follow cmds
sel disk 1
list par
is this from within diskpart?
32 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 05:42
>>31
yes
33 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 05:49
>>30
an m.2 drive (pronounced m dot two) is a kind of SSD form factor. It's no bigger than a stick of gum, and the prices are pretty okay and they last for a solid while (most come with a 5 year warranty). You plug them into your motherboard directly. Some laptops have space for an m.2 expansion as well, which I assume you're going for considering you're talking about external drives. If you do have a laptop, you wanna be sure your board has a slot for one.
34 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 05:52
not sure if i screwed a step up. maybe i should redo the list disc option just to make sure it sees it.
35 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 06:03
>>30
Also, I'm super partial to HDD's because I like space over speed, but if you're gonna be travelling with it and it'll almost guaranteedly not be secured (i.e. not in a laptop case or something) then I'd go with an SSD. If it's for data storage/backups, go HDD. Crucial/Micron makes some good SSD's.
36 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 06:06
>>34
i never did the clean option earlier in the thread idk if that has any bearing on any of this. if the drive head was stuck would it explain any of this?? i still have a vague idea that if i give it a smack on the side maybe it will work, before i throw it out as a nonfunctional drive.
37 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 06:08
>>34
no, that's an expected result, anon that drive is fucked or your sata to usb adapter is faulty.

Either way it's okay to close the cmd line you can re enable the automount if you want,
38 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 06:16
>>37
damn, that sucks. idk if you saw

>>36
but is it worth even trying that?

I guess as a last ditch effort i can try freezing it or smacking it or maybe even opening it last just to visually see if the head was in fact stuck in place. Thats too bad i had really hoped Id be able to get a few things off of it.

I will renable automount, but if i leave it off, what would it change? I rarely ever use the command prompt so i just am trying to learn by asking that.

the laptop in question i had spilled soda on years back, the keyboard started going out over time, and one day it just refused to turn on or work and i dont think it could get past the BIOS. do you think there could have been a short of some kind that fried the drive? This was years and years ago.
39 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 06:29
>>1
>>1
Try partition magic. I was able to recover data off a semi dead drive back in 2010. Been a while since I did PC repair tho.
40 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 07:14
>>37
should i try the clean function or do you think it is just fucked?

>>39
if recuva didnt recognzie the drive do you think that would? honest question, sort of at a loss since whatever other drive in the past i tried to get data from was at last recognized, even if it wasnt bootable (OS)
41 Name: Anonymous 2021-05-05 07:16
>>40
if recuva didnt recognzie the drive do you think that would? honest question, sort of at a loss since whatever other drive in the past i tried to get data from was at last recognized, even if it wasnt bootable (OS)

Wouldn't hurt to try. Have you ran a chkdsk on the drive if thats even possible?
Seems like a pain in the ass unless there something you really need from the drive.

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